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There's something that's always bothered me about Eve...

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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#1 - 2012-09-11 16:24:39 UTC
There are enough asteroids for everyone.

There shouldn't be. Why do they respawn? They've been harvested by four giant industrial empires for years.

There shouldn't be asteroids in high-sec space anymore due to simple depletion. Folks should have to start fighting over asteroids in lowsec. imho.
Jim Era
#2 - 2012-09-11 16:25:08 UTC
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Wat™
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#3 - 2012-09-11 16:25:12 UTC
Your ho isn't particulary h imho

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-09-11 16:28:25 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
There are enough asteroids for everyone.

There shouldn't be. Why do they respawn? They've been harvested by four giant industrial empires for years.

There shouldn't be asteroids in high-sec space anymore due to simple depletion. Folks should have to start fighting over asteroids in lowsec. imho.


That would destroy the economy. At some point no more trit ever? How would be build ships? Many people would just stop mining because the risk would be too high. The market for everything or close to it would start to go up in a crazy way untill a new supply of trit could be provided.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#5 - 2012-09-11 16:37:45 UTC
Yeah... let's make the regular minerals super-rare so that the already bloated T1 prices (come on, 8 million ISK for Stabbers?!) get even more bloated. That would be just lovely.

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Jim Era
#6 - 2012-09-11 16:39:41 UTC
Also, seeing as how minerals would have probably run out about 6 years ago.

Wat™
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#7 - 2012-09-11 16:39:58 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
That would destroy the economy. At some point no more trit ever? How would be build ships? Many people would just stop mining because the risk would be too high. The market for everything or close to it would start to go up in a crazy way untill a new supply of trit could be provided.


Nah, not ever. I'm just talking about a major depletion in high sec. Imagine if asteroids weren't in fixed belts, but were something you had to scan down. Small bunches of rocks in high-sec at most, easily depleted by a single miner in one hour perhaps, and not respawning for another hour. Sure, there's a bit, but with high-sec's population concentration, these would be pretty much instantly wiped out, and not just a source of infinitely grindable ore. Bigger bunches of rocks in low-sec, and up to unspoiled drifting masses that look like planetoids loaded with precious goodness in 0.0
Ryhss
#8 - 2012-09-11 16:43:06 UTC
OP doesn't understand MMO's....

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Vith Rothe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-09-11 16:45:19 UTC
Not everyone wants to play in 0.0... and your idea would obliterate the t1 economy...
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#10 - 2012-09-11 16:48:50 UTC
I feel the economy could use some obliterating.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#11 - 2012-09-11 16:49:02 UTC
posting in a stealth "i hate miners, i don't understand the first ******* thing about eve's economy" thread.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
smokess
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-09-11 16:52:24 UTC
<3 Istvaan
Trin Xi
#13 - 2012-09-11 16:52:55 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
There are enough asteroids for everyone.

There shouldn't be. Why do they respawn? They've been harvested by four giant industrial empires for years.

There shouldn't be asteroids in high-sec space anymore due to simple depletion. Folks should have to start fighting over asteroids in lowsec. imho.

Mining an entire asteroid out should also take from months to years and yield iron and nickel instead of a magic all-purpose metal, but if regen bugs you, OK.

Post with someone else's main™.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#14 - 2012-09-11 16:57:42 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
I feel the economy could use some obliterating.


You're in GHSC... just steal more stuff?

Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Ryhss
#15 - 2012-09-11 16:58:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryhss
Vith Rothe wrote:
Not everyone wants to play in 0.0... and your idea would obliterate the t1 economy...

QFT
Trin Xi wrote:
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
There are enough asteroids for everyone.

There shouldn't be. Why do they respawn? They've been harvested by four giant industrial empires for years.

There shouldn't be asteroids in high-sec space anymore due to simple depletion. Folks should have to start fighting over asteroids in lowsec. imho.

Mining an entire asteroid out should also take from months to years and yield iron and nickel instead of a magic all-purpose metal, but if regen bugs you, OK.
Don't try to apply real world to a video game thousands of years in the future in another galaxy.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-09-11 16:59:52 UTC
You didn't think this through, OP.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#17 - 2012-09-11 17:02:19 UTC
Oh, there is always orbital debris floating about in orbit. Asteroids showing up at points in space isn't unheard of as they get stuck there. Odd little things, constantly getting stuck in places they don't need to be. Chances are, if you could listen to their inner thoughts, all you'd hear is, "Ah, drat, I seem to have made a wrong turn somewhere. Oh my! I'm being mined! How unfortunate. Now I'll be late to Marge's dinner party!"

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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Interstellar Services Department
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#18 - 2012-09-11 17:06:02 UTC
Dennis Gregs wrote:
You didn't think this through, OP.


If you know anything about Istvaan, you'd know that he probably *did* think this through. FWIW, I kinda agree and kinda disagree. It'd damn sure make the game more "exciting" and losses more meaningful.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
stoicfaux
#19 - 2012-09-11 17:08:12 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
There shouldn't be asteroids in high-sec space anymore due to simple depletion. Folks should have to start fighting over asteroids in lowsec. imho.


The mass of the Avatar titan ship is 2,278,125,000 kg (2.2x10^9). The estimated mass of the asteroid belt between the Earth and Mass is ~3x10^21 kg.

Assuming that every bit of the asteroid belt could be used to build Titans, that's roughly one trillion titans. Given how many asteroid belts there are in Eve, I don't see mineral depletion as a concern.

tl;dr - "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is."
Addendum: The amount of stuff in space is mind-bogglingly big as well..

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#20 - 2012-09-11 17:14:20 UTC
stoicfaux, that assumes that there isn't an incredible amount of waste coming out of those roids. Which there would be. IMO they just eject 99.99% of the roid into the sun because it's useless.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
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