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Dev blog: Ship balancing winter update

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JamesCLK
#41 - 2012-09-11 12:22:58 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
What just happened?

It's a dev blog, with content? What?

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Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-09-11 12:24:18 UTC
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
The beautifully sleek shaped Moa...


Evil

You mock me sir.

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Liu Ellens
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-09-11 12:24:57 UTC
I need to set up my skill queue to fly one of these Vagabonds. Just for cruisin'.

Well, they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there for shure.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#44 - 2012-09-11 12:30:49 UTC
Good stuff!

The new look for the Vagabond/Stabber is quite nice.

Time to go lurk in features and ideas for a while...

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Siduru
Unexpected Accident
#45 - 2012-09-11 12:32:04 UTC
nice changes butmissing. Please try to start working on ECM nerf
Bubanni
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#46 - 2012-09-11 12:35:18 UTC
Sooo... the vagabond will be made slightly smaller than the stabber? by a few cm?

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63391/1/stabber.jpg
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63391/1/vagabond.jpg

try switching between the two :D and you will notice the shift
(just kidding I know you wont change the size)

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SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-09-11 12:35:37 UTC
GOD DAMN SON.

CCP, that is what I call a magnificent devblog.

This is balancing. This is revamping. This is "making new stuff with old stuff". I like that. I like that very much.

And I wish I could theorycraft T1 cruisers fleet on EFT already.

Also, don't forget to tweak faction cruisers so they don't get lost behind.

(I'm also very curious about how you will revamp the Scythe)

A big shout out to CCP. A very very nice present. Along with BF3 Armored Kill, I don't know what else I could have had today.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#48 - 2012-09-11 12:39:37 UTC
SMT008 wrote:

(I'm also very curious about how you will revamp the Scythe)


Your wish is my command.

The first features and ideas thread on these new cruisers is up, and it covers the first iteration of the Support Cruisers!

Go tell us what we are doing right and what we are doing wrong! (With details please)

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Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#49 - 2012-09-11 12:39:55 UTC
Hoarr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-09-11 12:43:15 UTC
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. T1 CRUISER REBALANCE OM NOM NOM.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#51 - 2012-09-11 12:45:58 UTC
Yet another time I see you intending to increase EHP. Do you really believe you can keep going the same way infinitely?

Tier1 battlecruisers - EHP buff was promised, too. What about HACs and Faction cruisers later on? Will EHP boost follow as well? And then Command Ships - another EHP buff?

You guys seem to be missing you're starting pretty much another power creep coil. What makes things worse, that's one-sided power creep, not accompanied by damage increase, thus small-scale PvP and active tanking become even less appealing.

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Megnamon
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-09-11 12:51:34 UTC
Stabber and Vaga full of sweet sweet yum.

Hopefully the Navy frigs will get some love soon. The Firetail is such a great little ship, just needs a little something to bump it back up to be worth the pricetag.
Iris Bravemount
Golden Grinding Gears
#53 - 2012-09-11 12:52:22 UTC
Sounds very good! I'm curious about the Thorax tweak!

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Hoarr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-09-11 12:53:30 UTC
Lunaleil Fournier wrote:
Agree with the above....

Eve ships have been really unique and different from one another especially in different classes. But it makes it sound as we're simply going to have frigate-geddon, cruiser-geddon, battleship-geddon, etc etc. Easy to balance, but considerably more boring.



Have you ever *flown* an amarr ship? They're p bad till you hit bs (with some obvious exceptions) I totally strove of them styling the omen and maller after the geddon and baddon. They're great examples of the philosophy for amarr ships. That's all they're trying to say in the dev blog. "these two ships are great examples of amarrian design philosophy. We're going to apply that philosophy to their cruisers". It's the same way that the nano pest is just a big nano cane.
m3talc0re X
The Motley Crew of Disorder
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#55 - 2012-09-11 12:56:57 UTC
darmwand
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#56 - 2012-09-11 12:59:04 UTC
Very nice indeed, definitely looking forward to this winter. And who would have thought, the art department can still do things other than space camouflage!

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#57 - 2012-09-11 12:59:39 UTC
Go go go! Glad to see updates coming in!

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C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2012-09-11 12:59:48 UTC
Where will be the turrets on the stabber/vaga?
Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-09-11 13:01:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Galphii
I had despaired that cruiser hulls wouldn't get hit with the usefulness stick until well into next year; I'm very excited to see that they'll be done in time for xmas Big smile Keep up the good work Ytterbium & co, this is an important project for Eve's overhaul.

Oh, and MY GOD the stabber looks sexy. I love the cleaner look of the new minmatar design philosophy, it's totally badass.

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Tamonash en Welle
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-09-11 13:02:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tamonash en Welle
The revamps are awesome and all... but please please please do not forget to update the ship descriptions. For many ships they already make little sense compared to the actual role and strong points and with these changes it is only going to get worse.Straight

And, sure, new players can have fun in these ships, but they will be highly confused to pick a combat ship which primary role is described to be mining.