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More Nerf to ganking

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Powers Sa
#181 - 2012-09-11 00:33:15 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
TLDR there are enough dumb people in this game that a few can stand to lose a little bit for their errors in judgement. We have nullsec FC's who lose whole fleets for their idiocy and errors in judgement.
You lost my attention when you started bragging about being good at a video game and calling other people dumb. That and your smug avatar really makes me wanna punch you.

I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore.

((i thought you guys liked to roleplay :( ))

Pirates live everywhere. This is nothing new. Guiding Hand Social Club has been doing it forever.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#182 - 2012-09-11 00:52:41 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FREIGHTER PILOTS, ONCE ******** CRIMEWATCH COMES AROUND NOBODY WILL GANK YOUR PRECIOUS FREIGHTER FULL OF 50 BILL ISK CARGO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCOOP IT WITHOUT BEING FREELY SHOT AT BY ANYONE.


From the last I heard CCP pushed back crimwatch to coincide with Ring mining to protect the Goons it won't be implemented until 2020 Blink
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#183 - 2012-09-11 01:10:36 UTC
Dear OP: do us all a favor and unsub. Thanks in advance!
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#184 - 2012-09-11 01:12:14 UTC
Dear Goon: do us all a favor and find another game to terrorize. Thanks in advance!
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#185 - 2012-09-11 01:12:40 UTC
I hear most other MMOs in existence offer fairly risk-free gameplay; you might try one of those!
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#186 - 2012-09-11 01:15:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ganthrithor
Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Do both of us a favor and go find something else to do with your time. You'll have more fun derping about with no anxiety about losing your pixel-things and we won't have to read your terrible whiny posts anymore.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#187 - 2012-09-11 01:15:48 UTC
Ganthrithor wrote:
I hear most other MMOs in existence offer fairly risk-free gameplay; you might try one of those!
If I could find one with the same shared global scifi space universe EVE has I probably would.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#188 - 2012-09-11 01:16:55 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Dear Goon: do us all a favor and find another game to terrorize.
Another besides which one? Are you suggesting that they should start terrorising EVE? That doesn't seem like a very nice suggestion.
Raiz Nhell
PeregrineXII
#189 - 2012-09-11 01:17:14 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
[quote=Powers Sa]I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore.


We are explaining to you, in very simple easy to understand details, how to avoid the very ganks that we are carrying out. It is hilariously simple to not get ganked. There are 11 pages of people explaining how to do it, to summarize :

Don't carry too much stuff in one freighter
Don't fly through known dangerous pipes
Don't fly at peak times
Don't fly solo (use a scout/webber/logistics)
Think about your cargo and maybe use a different ship to haul it (low volume? Blockade Runner. High Value? Jump freighter has twice the EHP of a regular one.)

Its REALLY EASY to not get ganked. But just how it was really easy to not get your Hulk exploded during hulkageddon (fit some tank instead of full cargo expanders you idiots) if you bleat hard enough CCP will probably do something.



I ran my freighter through lowsec to an island following exactly these rules...
I broke the trip in to 2 parts either side of DT, and I only carried bulky, crappy stuff, my valuables were in my blockade runner and the corp hanger of my orca...

It was a sphincter clenching ride, but I moved everything into lowsec over a couple of days, always picking a different route and checking dotlan before each jump.

You can do the same in highsec...

If you really want to prevent ganking, or at least make it difficult, remove the autopilot.

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#190 - 2012-09-11 01:17:19 UTC
Ganthrithor wrote:
Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like?
Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2012-09-11 01:18:28 UTC
^ post circa 2011
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#192 - 2012-09-11 01:18:41 UTC
21.5bil in 4 freighters, I see nothign wrong with that, the freighter pilots should have carried less valuable cargo. thats definitely worth losing a bunch of tornados for.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#193 - 2012-09-11 01:19:38 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.
…then you haven't been here long enough. The issue is that some people make silly assumptions that cost them their ships. Others are simply making sure to profit from those assumptions.
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#194 - 2012-09-11 01:20:40 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Ganthrithor wrote:
Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like?
Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.


So powerful that we've literally got an 18-man gang in highsec doing things with no alliance funding? Yikes, I can see the scale of your problem.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#195 - 2012-09-11 01:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Ganthrithor wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.


So powerful that we've literally got an 18-man gang in highsec doing things with no alliance funding? Yikes, I can see the scale of your problem.
Powers Sa wrote:
A great deal of effort and work goes into this. We have a production team to keep us in ships. We started the gank fest with a 1bil investment. The cost of the gank usually mirrors the cost of the freighter hull, unlike miners who can be owned by 2 destroyers at a fraction of the cost. Lots of coordination is required on the production, scanning, bumping, hauling, salvaging, market clearing, and ultimately execution. These strikes are surgical. It is a gamble every time that we execute one of these ganks, and we have a risk/reward formula that we use to ensure that our ganks are free until the end of time.

Every one of our gankers gets a free ship because our previous ganks (seed of 1bil) fund future ganks. This is a playstyle.
If you autopilot in a freighter, you die. If you cruise around with 10bil worth of stuff and don't double-wrap, you die. To clarify, 4 different freighter pilots have died to us TWICE within 30 days (some within 48hours) because they failed to evolve. Mind your surroundings. Be more cautious, hell even be smart. We kill individuals who lack this capacity. Several people have slipped through our fingers by using just a modicum of intelligence. Poetic Stanziel wrote a great piece on how not to be dumb when you have expensive stuff to move. Always use collateral. General Freight cans exist for a reason. If you are a dumb and lazy freighter pilot, chances are you will die if you move through a tradehub pipe.

When you are the very best at something, you take pride in it. How many of you can say you are the best at something?
Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#196 - 2012-09-11 01:24:47 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?
You realise that the two posts you quoted don't contradict each other, right?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#197 - 2012-09-11 01:25:07 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?


Yeah uh they don't get alliance funding, they're entirely self sufficient

I think it's fairly obvious given the fact that they're getting hilarious drops to keep going at it!

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Powers Sa
#198 - 2012-09-11 01:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Powers Sa
Paul Oliver wrote:
Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?

Which one of those dead freighters were you?

Are you Gallente Citizen 20060217 or Miss Edney?

I fail to see you disputing any facts in this thread. You are just upset by truths and that's unfortunate.

This is just my way of protesting the shortcomings of nullsec production opportunities. If people are worried about losing their T2 production in highsec, then maybe they'll move their alliance industry back where it belongs instead of squirreling it away into some highsec altcorp. Notice all the dead moongoo production related stuff that is getting killed.

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Ghazu
#199 - 2012-09-11 01:31:26 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Ganthrithor wrote:
Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like?
Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.

WE ARE DOING GOD'S WORK

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#200 - 2012-09-11 01:34:08 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?


You're not very clever. It literally pains me to read threads like this given that the "problems" people invariably end up bitching about could be surmounted by the input of the SMALLEST amount of effort. I mean jesus christ, even WoW players generally take the time to research their characters and find the best talent builds / spell combos / whatever when they go and play. These "nerf cloaking, buff barges, buff freighters, neuter agression" threads are full of people who'd probably try and beat WoW without ever opening their skill sheets or picking up an item. "Dear Blizzard, my Paladin can't solo this dragon even though I spent literally 3 weeks in the newbie woods killing wolves, please fix your game."