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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#141 - 2012-09-10 19:37:13 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Mean people suck.
Quite right. Haulers should stop being so angry and learn how to have fun instead.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#142 - 2012-09-10 19:39:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
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Horatioh Kane
Perkone
Caldari State
#143 - 2012-09-10 19:52:02 UTC
I think the funniest part of this thread is that the guy with the incursion stuff was cool about losing it. He literally said, "it's just isk, I'll make it back in a couple months. GF."
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#144 - 2012-09-10 19:55:46 UTC
Horatioh Kane wrote:
I think the funniest part of this thread is that the guy with the incursion stuff was cool about losing it. He literally said, "it's just isk, I'll make it back in a couple months. GF."


Kudos to him, he gets Eve.

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Doomheim
#145 - 2012-09-10 20:10:39 UTC
GOTMYEYEONYOU wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Those freighter pilots could also set an escort fleet and take care of their business but no, they rather play alone with their dozen alts scouting systems and then cry their millions HP hull got gank with several dozens times the ship value in their cargo.

Gank mining barges with destroyers is silly, really really mongoloid game play. Gank freighters it's serious business and only serious gankers can afford to know when and how to do it, I see no problem here.


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Are you kidding me? Now you guys are editing for the word "moron"?

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You're [wrong] on so many levels [, let me frame my argument in the form of questions]. Do you have any idea how much freight moves in EVE? Any idea at all? Do realize how many escorts that would take? Are you volunteering for this escort duty? Do you know ANYONE who would want to do it, day in and day out? Do you not understand what a suicide gank is? Can you please explain to me how this escort will prevent the gank? Do you know anything about ganking freighters? It is neither hard nor expensive. Can you count or read? Show me the freighter or JF with "millions HP hull."


I can see no logical reason for you to remove anything else from this post. You should not have deleted the whole thing.

what, not relevant enough? or have you decided to make it personal?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#146 - 2012-09-10 20:12:28 UTC
GOTMYEYEONYOU wrote:
Are you kidding me? Now you guys are editing for the word "moron"?
No, they're editing for general personal abuse with no point to it.
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#147 - 2012-09-10 20:14:28 UTC
ISD just wanted to make a preemptive strike against badposting.

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Perkone
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-09-10 20:17:57 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
ISD just wanted to make a preemptive strike against badposting.

Preemptive?

Little late for that, I'd say... ;)

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Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#149 - 2012-09-10 20:49:00 UTC
Really there are a number of techniques, easy to implement, and inexpensive to maintain that would make the jobs of us pirates much more difficult. But, seeing as the greater part of my income currently depends on dumb freighter pilots I won't go into details. I refuse to go back to ratting Guristas.
Maki Osa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2012-09-10 21:07:52 UTC
Some dumbasses put their freighters on autopilot, and now we have to hear how it is 'breaking the game'?

High sec is safer, not safe. Pirates simply have to adjust their bottom line in considering risk vs. return. The whole point in EVE is that you can do what you want, provided you are willing to deal with the consequences.
Powers Sa
#151 - 2012-09-10 21:08:52 UTC
Sugar Kyle wrote:
Because OP does not like something it will destroy the game.

OP, you have great power.

Also, how dare a 0.0 alliance enter high sec. Roll

Some of us never left after burn jita.

Nullsec Alliances need Highsec. We buy all of our stuff here and export it out. Some of us grind missions for standings, some of us have production alts, some of us have secret fun here.

Highsec and Nullsec are symbiotic.

Now saying that, we killed 620bil in freighters/jump freighters/cargo over the last 31 days.

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Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-09-10 21:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Samahiel Sotken
Ranger 1 wrote:

Pardon, my bad. Civilian crew of commercial vessels have always been restricted from carrying firearms onboard their vessels, and until recently these restrictions defacto included "hired security personnel"... however this policy seems to be changing
in recent times (as of last year or so). This approach is still under intense criticism and restriction by many port cities that are concerned with the weaponry coming into their ports.
On the other hand, may of these private defense companies charge enough for their services that they simply drop their armament overboard when approaching a highly restricted port and manage to aquire fresh armament when they leave. Smile


I know I was being needlessly pedantic, and I apologize. I just wanted to point out that despite criticism, territorial maritime laws, general advisability, and the preference of insurance companies it is not a violation of international maritime law.

Either way, as an active high sec pirate, I oppose any private security corporations as I feel they would needlessly escalate potentially violent confrontations, create legal confusion in already complex territorial disputes (low sec), and contribute to the an unacceptable increase in armaments in the public spaceways. We live in a society founded upon laws, gentlemen. Laws enforced by the judicious and rigorous actions of CONCORD, and to allow such mercenary actions would jeopardize the very bedrock of our civilization (and my bottom line, seriously how did you let us raid 620billion? We're terrible at this game).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#153 - 2012-09-10 21:12:33 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Now saying that, we killed 620bil in freighters/jump freighters/cargo over the last 31 days.
I'm sorry. You didn't phrase that in the form of ISK/h, so you are obviously an impostor that doesn't live in highsec at all, so there! P
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#154 - 2012-09-10 21:21:00 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Now saying that, we killed 620bil in freighters/jump freighters/cargo over the last 31 days.
Learning a bit more everyday why goons are so universally hated.

It's not griefing It's "emergent gameplay". Roll
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#155 - 2012-09-10 21:23:37 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
It's not griefing It's "emergent gameplay". Roll
Certainly more the latter than the former, that's for sure, especially if all they're doing is blowing up ships.
pussnheels
Viziam
#156 - 2012-09-10 21:28:06 UTC
Mohamad Transporte wrote:
just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!

21.5 Billion isk people!!!!

that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!

if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game

u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...

4 of them smells like inside information and freighter flying with several billions around unescorted
good job of them and stupid freighter pilots

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2012-09-10 21:31:44 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Powers Sa wrote:
Now saying that, we killed 620bil in freighters/jump freighters/cargo over the last 31 days.
Learning a bit more everyday why goons are so universally hated.

It's not griefing It's "emergent gameplay". Roll

You're right, you should be allowed to move billions of ISK of assets in your cargo anywhere you want in highsec in absolute safety without doing anything to defend yourself. Roll

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#158 - 2012-09-10 21:43:55 UTC
Samahiel Sotken wrote:
seriously how did you let us raid 620billion? We're terrible at this game.


They're worse than you P but still better than TEST Twisted

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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#159 - 2012-09-10 21:46:21 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Jim Hazard wrote:
Yes.. it is totally destroying eve... ganking in high sec has always been around and still the game kept growing every year. If the freighter pilots carry around enough cargo so that it is worth suiciding them it is their own fault.

You might as well ask for an ibis to be buffed to 1 million EHP because one guy thought its smart to undock in a rookie ship with plexs worth 60 billions or how much it was.

In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds.


Those freighter pilots could also set an escort fleet and take care of their business but no, they rather play alone with their dozen alts scouting systems and then cry their millions HP hull got gank with several dozens times the ship value in their cargo.

Gank mining barges with destroyers is silly, really really mongoloid game play. Gank freighters it's serious business and only serious gankers can afford to know when and how to do it, I see no problem here.

"Ganking was never intended to be profitable"

Oh dear, morons who carry far too much stuff make ganking profitable.

Better nerf ganking Cool


Ganking is fine, nerf profiting.

John Hancock
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-09-10 21:50:11 UTC
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Jim Hazard wrote:
Yes.. it is totally destroying eve... ganking in high sec has always been around and still the game kept growing every year. If the freighter pilots carry around enough cargo so that it is worth suiciding them it is their own fault.

You might as well ask for an ibis to be buffed to 1 million EHP because one guy thought its smart to undock in a rookie ship with plexs worth 60 billions or how much it was.

In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds.


Those freighter pilots could also set an escort fleet and take care of their business but no, they rather play alone with their dozen alts scouting systems and then cry their millions HP hull got gank with several dozens times the ship value in their cargo.

Gank mining barges with destroyers is silly, really really mongoloid game play. Gank freighters it's serious business and only serious gankers can afford to know when and how to do it, I see no problem here.

"Ganking was never intended to be profitable"

Oh dear, morons who carry far too much stuff make ganking profitable.

Better nerf ganking Cool


Ganking is fine, nerf profiting.


People make themselves profitable targets. You can't really fix this.

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