EVE General Discussion

Gankalyst. Let's do this thing

This is actually a decent idea in its form.

Ganker goes GCC to the person they have targeted and engaged as well as their entire corporation/alliance for the 5 sec period.

There is NO GCC until the 5 sec time period is over and the guns and mods activate. Gate guns and faction police then engage as per normal times and rules.

Ganker GCC is activated when the warning screen YES button is clicked as is the 5 sec hold period.

Only way this is not initiated is if the target is -5 or under so KOS in high sec anyway.

Red boxed ship and ganker basically freeze, ie no warping off for the target even if warp is engaged, but any corp or target ship can engage ganker within that 5 sec time period. Theres no running, its fight or you die after 5 secs. Anyone truly afk or too slow still gets ganked but at least now you have a 5 second window to fight back, preemptive strike.

Right now ganking in high sec is effectively someone approaching a security guard with a money bag in hand and a pistol on his hip with a loaded gun pointed at the guard. The guard cannot pull his gun out and shoot the ganker even though you know hes going to one shot you in the head and take your money.

5 secs is a small window. Basically you can "draw and shoot first" Han Solo style. But the rest is all over but the crying once it flies. Large freighter ganks are still viable as are small solo ganks. Itll be a slightly less aware target that will be able to be ganked, or a true afk one without any sort of protection. This would allow basically ECM, or one shot defensive measures. Moar DPS will counter it of course, and theres still the % dice roll of ECM mods to be effective. Can you jam that many? Etc etc. And all afk targets are stil juicy. Only the effective, organized and aware pilots, corps and alliances can pull this off.

Also because its limited to corps and alliances it means noob corp hauler alts, mining alts, indy alts are all still fair game. Only corp or alliance members can defend anyway. Forcing these pilots into corps or alliances to make use of this measure. Allowing them to be wardecced in turn and therefore still vulnerable to another form of piracy.

As long as the target ship cannot "escape" and warp off, or log out within the 5 secs timer, but ONLY defend themselves, this could potentially work.

And thus it must be irrelevant to our internet spaceships game.

Buff CONCORD, only the magical police can save us from "teh g4nk3rs"

I love this idea, one could purchase security from this mercenary market thing I read is coming.

Yes, you are technically a privateer/pirate due to old British law of the seas.
Get a writ of plunder and hoist the Jolly Apple, me maties we be hauling great bootie tonight.
Hard to port my Goons this thread be under new writing!

Pardon, my bad. Civilian crew of commercial vessels have always been restricted from carrying firearms onboard their vessels, and until recently these restrictions defacto included "hired security personnel"... however this policy seems to be changing
in recent times (as of last year or so). This approach is still under intense criticism and restriction by many port cities that are concerned with the weaponry coming into their ports.
On the other hand, may of these private defense companies charge enough for their services that they simply drop their armament overboard when approaching a highly restricted port and manage to aquire fresh armament when they leave.

You're never going to succeed in reeducating them.

You are however, making great progress in culling them. Do your best ~~

On the subject of private security contractors, many countries will not let you dock with armed personnel on board unless those personnel & the ship belong to a friendly nations armed forces. There is also the risk of vessels being hit not only for their cargo but for their crews weapons, especially in countries where the supply, ownership & use of firearms is extremely regulated.


Goonswarm Customs and Excise, searching your freight for shinies erryday

All part of the lesson we are teaching

Aye, why use these newfangled cargo scanners when we can be sending them on their journey faster.


The real issue is that a pmc could be very easily a bridgehead, and a lot of the world does not like a well armed foreign national in their country, much less a citizen.

Also I hardly feel bad for these people in the standard industrials.
The freighters a bit more so unless some one dissuades me through explaining how you can bump a ship off grid.