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Possible future of ship paints.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#1 - 2012-09-10 15:33:51 UTC
The new catalyst paint jobs have shown their face on Buckingham.
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab303/Firetempest/Catapaint.png

Will we really need a thousand duplicate stat ships all over market and variations tabs for each paintjob?
Seems like its a big mess waiting to happen.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#2 - 2012-09-10 15:46:31 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Praetoxx
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#3 - 2012-09-10 15:49:13 UTC
That looks like it could be done with a simple slider for primary and secondary colors. No need for piles of ship variations.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#4 - 2012-09-10 15:51:37 UTC
Is that how they are showing up, as subcategory variations in the market?

No special BPO's or other support/manufacturing structure, or entries in the NEX?

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Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-09-10 15:52:05 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
That looks like it could be done with a simple slider for primary and secondary colors. No need for piles of ship variations.


I agree, looks like something you can easily customise like some other games. Very interesting to see what they come up with, now if only you could put your corp's logo on the side...
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#6 - 2012-09-10 16:06:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Ranger 1 wrote:
Is that how they are showing up, as subcategory variations in the market?

No special BPO's or other support/manufacturing structure, or entries in the NEX?


No, they are treated as normal variations. No extra tab. They are viewable in TQ right now, they just don't have skins. Yet they are just duplicates of the t1 with a new description.
They fill up the market table. A subcategory would help the mess.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#7 - 2012-09-10 16:09:48 UTC
I liked when Amarr ships were actually gold.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#8 - 2012-09-10 16:10:25 UTC
Custom paint jobs for units in game goes back to the 1990s. I see no reason why it should be a problem today.

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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#9 - 2012-09-10 16:14:16 UTC
Bwwwwaaa, my Eve is changing. I want all the ships to look the same. *tears*


I like the new ship color changes. Adds another dynamic to the game. How you say? Certain color ships might be more expensive, or rarer.

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Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-10 16:14:24 UTC
Yes, we should be able to put corp/alliance logo on our ships. I hope they implement that.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#11 - 2012-09-10 16:17:30 UTC
Can we have golden retrievers again. Killing space dogs was fun.

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#12 - 2012-09-10 16:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Custom paint jobs for units in game goes back to the 1990s. I see no reason why it should be a problem today.

The problem I'm seeing is how they are presented. Its not some item you can add like a rig to change your ship. Its really a brand new ship. With possible (but not used) different stats.
I'm worried every ship will cause market pollution as each ship needs to be duplicated in this system. Unlike a small, med large paint "rig" so to speak that could be used for any ship cutting down on ad nauseam.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#13 - 2012-09-10 16:22:30 UTC
They will not implement it in that way. They already learned their lesson on that one.

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#14 - 2012-09-10 16:25:30 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
They will not implement it in that way. They already learned their lesson on that one.

What lesson where.
Noriko Mai
#15 - 2012-09-10 16:36:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Lady Spank wrote:
They will not implement it in that way. They already learned their lesson on that one.

lol. Sure they did...

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TRUE ZER0
SILENT INC
#16 - 2012-09-10 17:17:25 UTC
Must have Tron paint job! Black with neon lights and big fins on the back!
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#17 - 2012-09-10 17:20:43 UTC
CCP wont put no non-canon shipskins

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Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-09-10 17:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Reidar Oskald
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Custom paint jobs for units in game goes back to the 1990s. I see no reason why it should be a problem today.
The problem I'm seeing is how they are presented. Its not some item you can add like a rig to change your ship. Its really a brand new ship. With possible (but not used) different stats.
I'm worried every ship will cause market pollution as each ship needs to be duplicated in this system. Unlike a small, med large paint "rig" so to speak that could be used for any ship cutting down on ad nauseam.


A simple 'Customise' button with sliders for different colours would suffice on each ship, remember those older games where they had a main colour and 2 highlight colours? Same idea, really. That way, you can buy any ship, and then customise its colours. When you sell it, it could go back to a set 'standard' colour, or go coloured. 30 seconds later, you can have it re-customised again for yourself.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#19 - 2012-09-10 17:47:45 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:

A simple 'Customise' button with sliders for different colours would suffice on each ship, remember those older games where they had a main colour and 2 highlight colours? Same idea, really. That way, you can buy any ship, and then customise its colours. When you sell it, it could go back to a set 'standard' colour, or go coloured. 30 seconds later, you can have it re-customised again for yourself.


I have nothing against complete custom colors. I fully indorse it. Though I think to have any quality it would have to be more than just two sliders.
Such as T'amber's samples http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda4.jpg
Yet CCP has stated it want to avoid silly stuff such as pink ships or dongs. And corporation colors seems to be the first wave. I just don't like how it looks like it will be presented in the data. As individual ships.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#20 - 2012-09-10 18:00:43 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:
A simple 'Customise' button with sliders for different colours would suffice on each ship, remember those older games where they had a main colour and 2 highlight colours? Same idea, really. That way, you can buy any ship, and then customise its colours. When you sell it, it could go back to a set 'standard' colour, or go coloured. 30 seconds later, you can have it re-customised again for yourself.

Would ruin the art direction, not to mention shaders are a lot more complex than mere colours. From a discusion on ship customisation in the CSM minutes.

CCP Mannbjörn wrote:
it's not just the color that you have to worry
about, but the material (and how it interacts with the lighting). There are just too many knobs that you
would have to fiddle with.


Personally I like the route CCP is going down, ie. several pre-defined skins, and creating different versions of each ship (from what little I know of the render engine, this is by far the easiest option). Remember, this is the earliest incarnation, distribution / creation and the market interface are completely unknown at this point.

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