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The Case for Removing Learning Implants

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Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#501 - 2012-09-09 09:43:54 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So it comes back to risk Vs. reward. If you are not willing to risk learning implants, why should you get the reward of the SP?

Because people who don't risk their implants still get the SP. That's exactly the point.




Well, just get rid of learning implants, increase the attributes base from 17 to 22 and problem solved it's then fair to everyone even PvPers.
Frying Doom
#502 - 2012-09-09 09:44:38 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So it comes back to risk Vs. reward. If you are not willing to risk learning implants, why should you get the reward of the SP?

Because people who don't risk their implants still get the SP. That's exactly the point.

Yes but people sitting in stations are not even playing the same game.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#503 - 2012-09-09 10:12:21 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So it comes back to risk Vs. reward. If you are not willing to risk learning implants, why should you get the reward of the SP?

Because people who don't risk their implants still get the SP. That's exactly the point.

Yes but people sitting in stations are not even playing the same game.

It's almost as if it hasn't been stated, multiple times, that the reasoning for either removing (or as was my suggestion, being able to unplug) implants wasn't to get people to play more, because they wouldn't have that "I don't want to lose my learning implants" inhibitor.

Almost.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#504 - 2012-09-09 10:18:10 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So it comes back to risk Vs. reward. If you are not willing to risk learning implants, why should you get the reward of the SP?

Because people who don't risk their implants still get the SP. That's exactly the point.

Yes but people sitting in stations are not even playing the same game.

It's almost as if it hasn't been stated, multiple times, that the reasoning for either removing (or as was my suggestion, being able to unplug) implants wasn't to get people to play more, because they wouldn't have that "I don't want to lose my learning implants" inhibitor.

Almost.

But if that was a real problem we would have people complaining about "I don't want to loose my ship" or I don't want to be podded". Whats newt free Battleships and clones as well because they might stop people PvPing.

You choose to PvP it is not a mandatory part of the game but every one is susceptible to it, so you choose to PvP and Choose not to use implants, then you choose not to be rewarded for fear of their loss.

Why should others lose one of there advantages to industry and manufacturing just because you chose PvP.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#505 - 2012-09-09 10:20:17 UTC
Because of this thread I bought myself learning implants for the first time in over 6 years.

Never realised they were so cheapLol
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#506 - 2012-09-09 10:20:59 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So it comes back to risk Vs. reward. If you are not willing to risk learning implants, why should you get the reward of the SP?

Because people who don't risk their implants still get the SP. That's exactly the point.

Yes but people sitting in stations are not even playing the same game.

It's almost as if it hasn't been stated, multiple times, that the reasoning for either removing (or as was my suggestion, being able to unplug) implants wasn't to get people to play more, because they wouldn't have that "I don't want to lose my learning implants" inhibitor.

Almost.

But if that was a real problem we would have people complaining about "I don't want to loose my ship" or I don't want to be podded". Whats newt free Battleships and clones as well because they might stop people PvPing.

You choose to PvP it is not a mandatory part of the game but every one is susceptible to it, so you choose to PvP and Choose not to use implants, then you choose not to be rewarded for fear of their loss.

Why should others lose one of there advantages to industry and manufacturing just because you chose PvP.

*woosh*

That's the sound of the point going straight over your head.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#507 - 2012-09-09 10:30:24 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Why should others lose one of there advantages to industry and manufacturing just because you chose PvP.




Why should PvPers lose out just because they want to PvP. They can't afford to keep losing +5 implants everytime they get podded whereas a trader can stay in a station with +5s with no fear of losing them.

Get rid of learning implants that way nobody loses out based on what they want to do ingame.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#508 - 2012-09-09 10:34:10 UTC
This thread has become redundant. The same arguments and counter arguments have been used through out 25 pages.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Frying Doom
#509 - 2012-09-09 10:57:20 UTC
Sabrina Solette wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Why should others lose one of there advantages to industry and manufacturing just because you chose PvP.




Why should PvPers lose out just because they want to PvP. They can't afford to keep losing +5 implants everytime they get podded whereas a trader can stay in a station with +5s with no fear of losing them.

Get rid of learning implants that way nobody loses out based on what they want to do ingame.

Industrialists and traders loose the difference in amount to what they have now. So do most miners. You chose PvP and this is part of the entry fee.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#510 - 2012-09-09 10:58:18 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
This thread has become redundant. The same arguments and counter arguments have been used through out 25 pages.

Yeah rather a lot, the number of times it made it to the second page and someone has necro'd it is insane.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#511 - 2012-09-09 10:58:57 UTC
Sabrina Solette wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Why should others lose one of there advantages to industry and manufacturing just because you chose PvP.




Why should PvPers lose out just because they want to PvP. They can't afford to keep losing +5 implants everytime they get podded whereas a trader can stay in a station with +5s with no fear of losing them.

Get rid of learning implants that way nobody loses out based on what they want to do ingame.


So get +4s if you don't like the risk.
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#512 - 2012-09-09 11:41:40 UTC
Hi,

I've locked this topic at the request of it's original poster.

Thanks and fly safe!

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]