Jita Park Speakers Corner

I salute the hardworking and the heroic efforts of the past and present CSM members who tried to improve my EVE game experience. I really thank you for your hard free work ! I started playing eve in December 2010 and enjoyed it. I even bought and paid for a second account (, sick SOB!) I have had disagreements with CCP. CCP had the “klugmans” fiasco, the 60-dollar pair of virtual pants fiasco, both were not CCP’s finest moments. But at the end of the day I want my personal relationship with CCP back. If CCP cannot make me happy some of the time by their actions via game play, I just simply cancel my EVE credit card payment and start mowing my lawn again on time! I view the CSM members as just another customer in a restraunt. The CSM to me seems to be a vegetarian diner who speaks to the CCP chef about the issues with the vegetarian food only distracting the CCP Chef from cooking my steak!! I am a meat eater; I do not need some vegetarians to intervene with the CCP cook on my behalf regardless of their passion or "expert" experience. I look at the largest events in eve today. The Milanti ruckus, drained energy and time from CCP and disenfrached many pilots and fostered much negative feelings throughout eve. Again, arising from the CSM elections! Who knows how many pilots said screw this during the Burn Jita revenge non-sense! To me everything the CCP/CSM puts their two cents into blows up or unbalances the game creating favoritism charges between High/Low/Zero/Worm styles of play. If Eve is too survive new players are needed! Now when anything comes down via the CSM pipeline I cannot help but wonder how does this help the current CSM pilot's alliance sponsor? If CCP wants or needs player input they should simply have ballot issues every 6 weeks with all the CASH paying players voting for or against the specific proposals. That saves CCP energy and all the CSM silly stuff stops in its tracks. Frankly CCP seems more worried about Dust 514 and the CSM then your average rank and file Eve pilots. I would rather CCP spend time expanding the universe, new missions ah heck maybe a sudden alien invasion (Locutis of Borg for a rough example!) Something new and out of the box would be great! Now let the flames upon me commence. I am wearing my asbestos underwear.

You're confusing The Mittani with his layabout brother, The Milanti.

I can handle a lot but this crosses the line. Don't you DARE accuse me of not appreciating a fine steak. I've even eaten whale!

I must say, I agree with my enter key deficient co-player.

This CSM seems to have forgotten the fact that we actually need them to get gameplay changes done - and not just as CCP decides to do it, but to meet the needs and wants of the players.

WE WANT STEAK.
(Medium Rare).

Or maybe his Scottish cousin "The Martini"

Are you aware the CSM has no authority to make or compel CCP to make any changes to the game?

The power of the CSM comes not from a power to control or compel, but in our ability to influence, inform, highlight, and persuade.

Seleene has been a voice for positive changes to the industrial side of EVE, as have others. You can look to the minutes for that (not that you'd care to) and it's been followed on by convos in Skype and posts on the forums from him and guys like Kelduum.

The CSM in general is a very positive force in EVE's development. Sometimes that's hard and in your face like CSM5's open letter and CSM6's steering of the Summer of Rage. In our case, it's protecting the ground gained by previous CSMs and maximizing the hard won trust and value the CSM has gotten over the past year to keep CCP on track and make the most out of the devs refocusing on flying in space and addressing EVE's technical debt.

But by all means, keep posting like an attention starved loon. Gives us something to laugh about around the water cooler in between near-constantly advocating on behalf of you and every other player in EVE to give you the best possible experience not just this expansion, but several expansions to come.

Gratitude or ingratitude are for people who actually care. If people see no relevance or need for the CSM then neither of these feelings are relevant.

Although I personally like the CSM I don't see why I should feel either of those two feelings towards any of the members of the CSM as they themselves have put themselves up for that position.
If some feel the need to receive or not receive either of those then they shouldn't be on the CSM in the first place.

This person is a good poster and should post more.

As an elected representative for the playerbase, I find these comments embarrassing and childish.

If you weren't a player representative, the comment would be amusing. But considering your position in the community, I'd expect a tad more maturity from you.