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Less wardecs than ever ?

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#1 - 2012-09-08 14:23:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Reppyk
Greeting citizens.

First, this is not a EVE IS DYING !11!! thread.

I was cruising in highsec, testing some 100mn stabber fits. I went in 2 different ice fields (hi, my dear test subjects) and noticed something funny : in the first one, a RAZOR member was mining. In the second one, there were 3 goons in barges (and they were really mining).

So, my first reaction was to find who was wardeccing them and gave them the intel, since it's fun to see the CFC bears dying. Because highsec "is for pubbies", right ? "We don't care about wardecs", etc etc.

They had none. That's why "Bat country" is ganking a few freighters each day in Niarja.

Puzzled, I checked all the major 00 alliances. Almost no one is currently wardecced.
Why ? Is it because Inferno f|_|cked the wardec prices ? Or people are finally bored about the horrible wardec mechanisms ?

CITIZENS OF C+P
THE NULL-SEC PUBBIES ARE COMING TO US
LET'S RUN TO THE HILLS

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#2 - 2012-09-08 16:18:11 UTC
OMG YOU NOTICED THAT? hold on let me get a medal for you

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.

Evolution1979
Hull Down Inc.
#3 - 2012-09-08 17:00:52 UTC
Well then some large entities might have trouble keeping their members in nullsec.
So we might just see goons deccing some really good hisec corp or something soon, just to keep their members in null.
Or that might not happen and goons will take over hisec also.
In any real case, nobody cares i think.
Well except the dudes who lose the freighters ofcourse.

But that was not your point i guess.
CCP should fix wardec prices obviously.
Then again they have a lot to fix, so this might take a while!
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#4 - 2012-09-08 17:17:27 UTC
Evolution1979 wrote:
Well then some large entities might have trouble keeping their members in nullsec.
So we might just see goons deccing some really good hisec corp or something soon, just to keep their members in null.
Or the other way : the 00 alliances could pay some mercs to get wardecced.

I like the idea ! Big smile

Evolution1979 wrote:
But that was not your point i guess.
CCP should fix wardec prices obviously.
Then again they have a lot to fix, so this might take a while!
See you in 5 years ! :D

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Evolution1979
Hull Down Inc.
#5 - 2012-09-08 17:22:17 UTC
Just thought about this, but what if you start griefing those nullsec miners in highsec.
Bumping them out of range, maybe ganking with some tornado's if possible or killing freighters.
Bumping freighters so they will never warp or get anywere might be fun also.
Keep that up for about 3 hours and they will just logoff probably.
So much ideas..... so little time Lol
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#6 - 2012-09-08 19:25:57 UTC
Your thread is bad and you should feel bad

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#7 - 2012-09-08 19:31:41 UTC
I'm so proud of the C&P in-game channel ♥

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#8 - 2012-09-08 19:49:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalel Nimrott
Goons minig in hisec. Eve is dying.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-09-08 20:33:51 UTC
War dec prices too high. CCP should roll back the Alliance P nerf imo.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#10 - 2012-09-09 01:12:14 UTC
Vaal Erit wrote:
War dec prices too high. CCP should roll back the Alliance P nerf imo.



Shut up obvious npc alt, your opinion is not valid.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-09-09 01:30:43 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Vaal Erit wrote:
War dec prices too high. CCP should roll back the Alliance P nerf imo.



Shut up obvious npc alt, your opinion is not valid.


CCP killed my career in the Privateers....

they took my job!

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-09-09 01:40:46 UTC
Reppyk wrote:
Greeting citizens.

First, this is not a EVE IS DYING !11!! thread.

I was cruising in highsec, testing some 100mn stabber fits. I went in 2 different ice fields (hi, my dear test subjects) and noticed something funny : in the first one, a RAZOR member was mining. In the second one, there were 3 goons in barges (and they were really mining).

So, my first reaction was to find who was wardeccing them and gave them the intel, since it's fun to see the CFC bears dying. Because highsec "is for pubbies", right ? "We don't care about wardecs", etc etc.

They had none. That's why "Bat country" is ganking a few freighters each day in Niarja.

Puzzled, I checked all the major 00 alliances. Almost no one is currently wardecced.
Why ? Is it because Inferno f|_|cked the wardec prices ? Or people are finally bored about the horrible wardec mechanisms ?

CITIZENS OF C+P
THE NULL-SEC PUBBIES ARE COMING TO US
LET'S RUN TO THE HILLS


combination of a few things 1 being the price witch forces some old war dec grifers to think and caused exactly what ccp wanted and that was the war dec mechanic to mean something not just spitefull vets useing it as a griefing mechanic.

the other reason could be cause the defenders now have much more options over the egressors with the fact they can call in mercs to help them fight.

and it could also be due to win conditions being specified and the defenders able to turn the tables on the attackers and prolonging a dec cause the win conditions aint meet.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#13 - 2012-09-09 09:15:06 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
lanyaie wrote:
Vaal Erit wrote:
War dec prices too high. CCP should roll back the Alliance P nerf imo.



Shut up obvious npc alt, your opinion is not valid.


CCP killed my career in the Privateers....

they took my job!




I heard mcdonalds is looking for new employees

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.

Reppyk
The Black Shell
#14 - 2012-09-09 13:00:38 UTC
serras bang wrote:
the other reason could be cause the defenders now have much more options over the egressors with the fact they can call in mercs to help them fight.
The "free allies" are all but not mercs, 99% of the time.

Lanyaie you're trying too hard. Lol

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#15 - 2012-09-09 14:59:35 UTC
War decs are dumb. The current system means that the size of my target corp = the expensive of my war dec.

Why is it this way round? There should only be one rule effecting the price of a war dec and that is the size of the corp issuing the dec.

The current system jsut encourages corps to fill up with alt chars that do nothing but drive up the price of a dec. CCP should make the system the other way round and open high sec up to interesting wars by small pirate groups.
Evolution1979
Hull Down Inc.
#16 - 2012-09-09 19:26:22 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
War decs are dumb. The current system means that the size of my target corp = the expensive of my war dec.

Why is it this way round? There should only be one rule effecting the price of a war dec and that is the size of the corp issuing the dec.

The current system jsut encourages corps to fill up with alt chars that do nothing but drive up the price of a dec. CCP should make the system the other way round and open high sec up to interesting wars by small pirate groups.


You have a valid point there sir!
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#17 - 2012-09-09 21:00:32 UTC
a 10m isk fee per player in YOUR CORP would be a great system it would allow small pirate corps to attack larger high sec entities. CCP will not do this as CCP is more focused on grind and space spiders and is determined to drive out pvp from high sec and make this game a grind like war crack.

Examples of CCPs anti pvp policy include.

1. Buff to HP of mining vessels.
2. Changing Concord response times
3. Nerfing the boomerang manoeuvre
4. High sec incursions (should only be a null and low sec affair)
5. Nerfing the Orca swarp in high sec
6. Not implementing a fair war dec system
7. Allowing corps that are dec'd to have allies??!?!! Dumbest idea to date.

The list goes on

Like I said less pvp more grind and space spiders.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-09-09 21:16:46 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
a 10m isk fee per player in YOUR CORP would be a great system it would allow small pirate corps to attack larger high sec entities. CCP will not do this as CCP is more focused on grind and space spiders and is determined to drive out pvp from high sec and make this game a grind like war crack.

Examples of CCPs anti pvp policy include.

1. Buff to HP of mining vessels.
2. Changing Concord response times
3. Nerfing the boomerang manoeuvre
4. High sec incursions (should only be a null and low sec affair)
5. Nerfing the Orca swarp in high sec
6. Not implementing a fair war dec system
7. Allowing corps that are dec'd to have allies??!?!! Dumbest idea to date.

The list goes on

Like I said less pvp more grind and space spiders.


And yet we're still here, despite all the opposition and changes Hulks are still getting ganked Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#19 - 2012-09-09 21:38:33 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
a 10m isk fee per player in YOUR CORP would be a great system it would allow small pirate corps to attack larger high sec entities. CCP will not do this as CCP is more focused on grind and space spiders and is determined to drive out pvp from high sec and make this game a grind like war crack.

Examples of CCPs anti pvp policy include.

1. Buff to HP of mining vessels.
2. Changing Concord response times
3. Nerfing the boomerang manoeuvre
4. High sec incursions (should only be a null and low sec affair)
5. Nerfing the Orca swarp in high sec
6. Not implementing a fair war dec system
7. Allowing corps that are dec'd to have allies??!?!! Dumbest idea to date.

The list goes on

Like I said less pvp more grind and space spiders.


1. not pvp.
2. not pvp.
3.not pvp.
4. not pvp.
5. not pvp.
6. Well yep effects pvp but why should a war dec system be fair ?
7. Moaning because the miners you pick to "pvp" may get friends to really pvp you........

Evolution1979
Hull Down Inc.
#20 - 2012-09-09 22:23:05 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
a 10m isk fee per player in YOUR CORP would be a great system it would allow small pirate corps to attack larger high sec entities. CCP will not do this as CCP is more focused on grind and space spiders and is determined to drive out pvp from high sec and make this game a grind like war crack.

Examples of CCPs anti pvp policy include.

1. Buff to HP of mining vessels.
2. Changing Concord response times
3. Nerfing the boomerang manoeuvre
4. High sec incursions (should only be a null and low sec affair)
5. Nerfing the Orca swarp in high sec
6. Not implementing a fair war dec system
7. Allowing corps that are dec'd to have allies??!?!! Dumbest idea to date.

The list goes on

Like I said less pvp more grind and space spiders.


I said you had a valid point and then you had to go and post this Sad
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