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Its time for a Recall Election

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-09-08 18:45:10 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
I would like to begin a petition for a recall election for the following CSM members:

Hans Jagerblitzen,

Trebor Daehdoow,

Darius III.

They are all incredibly useless oxygen sinks and are a detriment to the integrity of the CSM. Instead of doing their jobs and trying to make the game better for us, they decide to make a hamfisted grab at vote rigging for their own benefit. ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1895780#post1895780 ) They must be removed and replaced immediately.

Similar to the last election instead of having an external website poll, just like this post if you agree.

E: Fixed the name.

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#2 - 2012-09-08 19:38:37 UTC
I like this post but how the hell do you spell Han's last name right but not Trebor's?

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-08 19:40:32 UTC
Seleene wrote:
I like this post but how the hell do you spell Han's last name right but not Trebor's?


Hans' name reminds me of Jägermeister that's why.

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-09-08 19:49:42 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
I would like to begin a petition for a recall election for the following CSM members:

Hans Jagerblitzen,

Trebor Daehdoow,

Darius III.

They are all incredibly useless oxygen sinks and are a detriment to the integrity of the CSM. Instead of doing their jobs and trying to make the game better for us, they decide to make a hamfisted grab at vote rigging for their own benefit. ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1895780#post1895780 ) They must be removed and replaced immediately.

Similar to the last election instead of having an external website poll, just like this post if you agree.

E: Fixed the name.
How do you not have Kelduum Revaan on that list?

(Even though Trebor and Hans are both defending a ridiculous piece of voting reform, I would not stick either on a recall list.)
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#5 - 2012-09-08 20:14:45 UTC
What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list?

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Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-09-08 22:32:39 UTC
Two step wrote:
What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list?

Be a colossal turd.
Frying Doom
#7 - 2012-09-09 05:25:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Two step wrote:
What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list?

Be a colossal turd.

Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities"

It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-09-09 05:44:36 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Two step wrote:
What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list?

Be a colossal turd.

Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities"

It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm.

Shouldn't be that hard to out-vote us then. Oh wait, we're the only ones who care about the CSM elections. Oops. Guess we're a majority of the voting populace then.
Frying Doom
#9 - 2012-09-09 06:55:36 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Two step wrote:
What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list?

Be a colossal turd.

Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities"

It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm.

Shouldn't be that hard to out-vote us then. Oh wait, we're the only ones who care about the CSM elections. Oops. Guess we're a majority of the voting populace then.

Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-09 08:01:51 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents?

Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from.
Frying Doom
#11 - 2012-09-09 10:03:14 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents?

Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from.

Maybe you could enlighten me as to what was actually done?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-09-09 22:51:53 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents?

Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from.

Maybe you could enlighten me as to what was actually done?

Sure. You might remember that the CSM was asked to prioritize the issue backlog at CCP, which resulted in features like Tidi. The supercap nerf grew on the input of CSM6, which helped lowsec as well as null; the emergency summit after the Incarna fiasco helped getting EVE back on track. POS mechanics have been improved due to CSM input (mostly onlining/anchoring timers). The list goes on.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#13 - 2012-09-09 23:03:23 UTC
None of these are as useless (other than entertainment) as Ank was, so they might as well stay.
Frying Doom
#14 - 2012-09-09 23:06:30 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents?

Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from.

Maybe you could enlighten me as to what was actually done?

Sure. You might remember that the CSM was asked to prioritize the issue backlog at CCP, which resulted in features like Tidi. The supercap nerf grew on the input of CSM6, which helped lowsec as well as null; the emergency summit after the Incarna fiasco helped getting EVE back on track. POS mechanics have been improved due to CSM input (mostly onlining/anchoring timers). The list goes on.

So features mostly concerning Null and a PR exercise for CCP. Very productive. So again are you surprised people think it is something for Null sec residents.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-09-09 23:26:26 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So features mostly concerning Null and a PR exercise for CCP. Very productive. So again are you surprised people think it is something for Null sec residents.

Fine, drone space then. Nerfed, highsec minerals rose in price. The recent tech nerf was something that CSM6 has been lobbying for (although they've overdone it somewhat in my opinion). I'm interested how you can spin either of those into issues only of relevance to nullsec. Also I must have missed the patch that deleted all empire POSes.
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-09-10 04:04:57 UTC
Brick has sloped enough that I dont think D3 will be on CSM8.

maybe FWeddit should field a competing FW representative for CSM8 to replace Hans.

Highsec will always produce useless CSM reps until someone can organize the carebear masses into a voting bloc.

Kelduum hasn't done too bad a job, I doubt any other member of the CSM has more contact with brand new players than he does.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-09-10 04:44:25 UTC
I don't like the proposed voting reform either but this is thread is stupid. You should feel bad about yourself for making it.
Frying Doom
#18 - 2012-09-10 07:57:13 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So features mostly concerning Null and a PR exercise for CCP. Very productive. So again are you surprised people think it is something for Null sec residents.

Fine, drone space then. Nerfed, highsec minerals rose in price. The recent tech nerf was something that CSM6 has been lobbying for (although they've overdone it somewhat in my opinion). I'm interested how you can spin either of those into issues only of relevance to nullsec. Also I must have missed the patch that deleted all empire POSes.

Where is drone space?
Do the issues of POS anchoring times effect Null or Hi-sec more?
Does the tech nerf now slow down other Alliances the ability to receive that kind of cash into their wallets?(On this I will admit Goonswarm actually warned CCP before tech as well as a lot of others but that was in the CCP knows best era)

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-09-10 08:06:40 UTC
its true. nullsec is leading the way in nerf "features" that benefit other regions since 2010
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-09-10 09:47:39 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Where is drone space?

Do you acknowledge that removing 60% of the Tritanium supply from the market helped the Highsec miners? Because if you just go "they changed something in Nullsec and that means it doesn't influence any other part of the game" we can just stop discussing this.
Frying Doom wrote:
Do the issues of POS anchoring times effect Null or Hi-sec more?

Do you anchor modules on your Highsec POS? I guess if you just drop a barren stick in space then it doesn't affect you.
Frying Doom wrote:
Does the tech nerf now slow down other Alliances the ability to receive that kind of cash into their wallets?

No, tech has only depreciated in value for Goonswarm sellers. Seriously, what kind of a ******** question is that.
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