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500m to declare war on Goonswarm? (AKA: why are small corps penalised by the wardec system?)

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#221 - 2012-09-08 18:25:47 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp members mad that large alliances can't be wardec'd

lol

Odd, eh. I mean by that logic, we should be ... well you know.

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Too-Boku
Doomheim
#222 - 2012-09-08 18:35:24 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp members mad that large alliances can't be wardec'd

lol


NPC corp member fury has been building as of late..I recommend anger management classes Smile
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#223 - 2012-09-08 18:59:23 UTC
Yes, because major Alliances don't use 100's of NPC alts to post here...right? Right? Shocked

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#224 - 2012-09-08 19:08:21 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Yes, because major Alliances don't use 100's of NPC alts to post here...right? Right? Shocked

Why would we? Posting behind an NPC corp alt is an act of shame
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#225 - 2012-09-08 19:14:06 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Yes, because major Alliances don't use 100's of NPC alts to post here...right? Right? Shocked

Why would we? Posting behind an NPC corp alt is an act of shame

We happily use our main.

Maybe some pets are scared to, but that's life under a master...

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#226 - 2012-09-08 19:14:41 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Yes, because major Alliances don't use 100's of NPC alts to post here...right? Right? Shocked

Why would we? Posting behind an NPC corp alt is an act of shame

Because some alliances have a weird "don't post on eve-o forums" rule. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#227 - 2012-09-08 19:18:07 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
But at the same time, it's not like we're not already at war with like 90% of EVE already. Why not join one of the guys we're currently decced with?
Because nobody is wardeccing you at the moment ?
500m/week is 2B/month. It's not much, but a small corp cannot sustain it for long.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#228 - 2012-09-08 19:25:13 UTC
500m that's like 2 tier3 battleships right?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#229 - 2012-09-08 19:46:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NEONOVUS
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
500m that's like 2 tier3 battleships right?

yes

Personally, I would like to have something more for my wardecs.
Like being able to lock myself and my opponents out of a station.
Or being able to find their POS.
I mean that would make the wardecs more useful.
As opposed to just having some one outside ramming the police because the targets wont come out and die.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#230 - 2012-09-08 19:57:21 UTC


Is this thread still going?

Wow.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#231 - 2012-09-08 20:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabrina Solette
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp members mad that large alliances can't be wardec'd

lol



lol, same old **** arguments from the so called hardcore PvPers.


NPC alt post with your main, why? Makes no difference.

This is a played character, but it's a market trader character and as such there's no benefit to joining a player corp/alliance and why bother anyway because over 50% of them are **** anyway.

But I have other characters and I have been in player corps even one corp/alliance in 0.0. So it's still an interest to me how the war-dec system works.

How many people have alts in NPC corps that have characters in low-sec or NPC corps, oh of course that's right none (sarcasm, i'll add that just incase you did not get it).



Edit: Anyway how do we know you're posting with your main? Because there are no alts in player corps? Roll
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#232 - 2012-09-08 20:37:26 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
I don't think anybody here has exactly explained why it should be cheap to wardec Goonswarm (or for that matter why you should be able to wardec them at all).

It's not as if you can't shoot at them for free.

Every time I get a "x has declared war on RAZOR Alliance" I laugh and delete the evemail. We seriously don't care because it doesn't affect us for the most part.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#233 - 2012-09-08 22:47:07 UTC
Pay (much less) one of their current targets to bring you in on the war?
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#234 - 2012-09-08 23:45:11 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't think anybody here has exactly explained why it should be cheap to wardec Goonswarm (or for that matter why you should be able to wardec them at all).

It's not as if you can't shoot at them for free.

Every time I get a "x has declared war on RAZOR Alliance" I laugh and delete the evemail. We seriously don't care because it doesn't affect us for the most part.


But that only works in null...

The poor frightened corporation can't be expected to declare war on you, then go to null...

No, they need to declare war on you, and fight it in highsec...because null is too dangerous...

They think "We should be able to declare war, and it shouldn't be too dangerous."

James315 for CSM 8!
Lady Whipcrack
Doomheim
#235 - 2012-09-09 10:10:04 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't think anybody here has exactly explained why it should be cheap to wardec Goonswarm (or for that matter why you should be able to wardec them at all).


It doesn't have to be 'cheap', but it should be fair and logical -- it should cost the same for a small corp to wardec Goonswarm, as it costs Goonswarm to wardec the same corp. (replace 'Goonswarm' with any sizeable entity - the logic remains)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#236 - 2012-09-09 10:17:36 UTC
Sabrina Solette wrote:


lol, same old **** arguments from the so called hardcore PvPers.


NPC alt post with your main, why? Makes no difference.



If it makes no difference why hide?
Frying Doom
#237 - 2012-09-09 11:21:21 UTC
Lady Whipcrack wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't think anybody here has exactly explained why it should be cheap to wardec Goonswarm (or for that matter why you should be able to wardec them at all).


It doesn't have to be 'cheap', but it should be fair and logical -- it should cost the same for a small corp to wardec Goonswarm, as it costs Goonswarm to wardec the same corp. (replace 'Goonswarm' with any sizeable entity - the logic remains)


Well we would not want one of the larger alliances whining on the forums and filling them with crap, now would we?

Oh wait a minute.....

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#238 - 2012-09-09 11:24:49 UTC
Effect of wardecs on GSF:
1) one or two complete idiots dying.
2) evemail spam

Fucks given: 0

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#239 - 2012-09-09 11:49:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Effect of wardecs on GSF:
1) one or two complete idiots dying.
2) evemail spam

Fucks given: 0

Goonwswarm federation vs The Honda Accord.

Goonswarm killed
12,986,988,614 isk
98 ships

The Honda Accord (A bunch of industrialists)
47,632,963,261 isk
844 ships

So those one or two idiots died an awful lot in that war.
A lot of spam was given

As to the last well I think the total was a lot more than 0.

So it would seem the effects of war decs are more than nothing to Goonswarm.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#240 - 2012-09-09 11:52:57 UTC
So you're Jade today? What's next, "it's a blight on your war record" and "you're so embarassed you whined to CCP to get the mechanics changed"?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat