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Glad you finally admitted it.




1,000/350,000=1/30

Glad to hear it, Brewlar.

Oh and, [citation needed] on the "1000 people have spoken out against T2 BPOs."

This looks like Serious buziness, I should stay out of

So you're saying that the majority of players are logged on 24/7? Ooookay...

By the way, according to the QEN, EVE had 357,000 active accounts at the end of 2010. That stagnated some, fell a bit (Incarna), and has pretty much recovered.


Tell me more about how your 1,000 accounts represent 1/30th of EVE's 350,000 subscriptions.

And tell me more about how there have been 1,000 different active characters arguing for the removal of T2 BPOs. Feel free to list them. Since you already counted them, I'm sure listing them will be trivial.

The so-called "t20 incident" was exposed to the general public on the 9th of February 2007 (so, nearly 5 and a half years ago) by a player whose name used to be filtered out for a long time on the forums ( Kugutsumen ).
In a hotly disputed move afterwards, t20 was only "internally punished" and Kugutsumen banned due to the particular way in which he made the discovery public.
The CCP Internal Affairs division ("CCP IA")was created shortly afterwards to pro-actively supervise CCP employee actions, investigate and punish allegations of misconduct.

The fishy stuff involved a grand total of 10 (TEN) T2 BPOs, out of which, only 1 (ONE) was actually valuable (a Sabre BPO), and they were all removed from those who obtained them through favouritism and put back into the lottery queue.
That's less than 0.1% of the total number of T2 BPOs, and they were all yanked out, so any "unfairness" past the normal effect of lottery randomness was minuscule to begin with, and nevertheless redressed.
This makes Brewlar's accusations that "the lottery was unfair" a bit harder to believe at face value.

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t20 kept working at CCP for a while, but in other capacities, then changed employers later, in 2008 (IIRC, allegedly, to "Realtime Worlds", which funny enough, closed down in 2010).
Kugu started that other site that lambastes every mistake CCP makes (it's more EVE politics and goings on than anything else nowadays), with a fairly active forum, which alongside SHC/FHC are the most often used external forums by EVE players.


If Brewlar really thinks he has any sort of actual evidence that the tampering with the lottery extended in any way past the t20 incident, he should have brought that evidence to CCP IA a long time ago already, which are in a far better position to actually see what really happened, because that's who has all the logs (as opposed to wild speculations, unfounded rumours, or outright malicious lies).
As things stand now, in that particular sub-argumentation line, Brewlar looks like nothing more than a scaremonger.

Was T20 a tank?

Or was it fictional character created by someone?

relseasing that list would:
1) not tell you if or who of them got the BPO`s properly or gifted
2) consist like ~3000 differenct accounts
3) kinda violate the ingame privacy, as you probably wouldnt like others to know, what you have in ur wallet/assets either.

wouldnt be the worstthting ever to release it but I just cannot see nay benefit to do so, not for the owners neither for the haters.




lol, its so hard to be funny these days, isnt it?

it proves nothing except that you are limited by your perception, and that you talk about things without knowing. You're in subjectivity, not in the pursuit of knowledge, otherwise you would not dare to write as deeply stupid things : You are of the worst ignorants, of those who are satisfied by their subjectivity and who don't try to improve themselves.

Instead of worrying about you to improve things for others, you'd better worry about improving your own level of understanding of how things work

How is this thread still alive? T2 BPOs are in the game. Deal with it. Just like the specialty ships. Some people have them, some don't, big deal. Know how many T2 BPOs I have? 0. Do I care? Not really. Much like the super-rare ships, moving one out of a station would probably just mean getting ganked anyway.

However, I do like the 100-run BPCs that come out of them, so...keep chuggin' along, all you T2 BPO-ers.

If you're crying over this tiny, relatively insignificant factor in EVE-dom, you need a new MMO, and WoW is over here.

You can now play with fuzzy pandas. Enjoy.

No one has a problem with unique ships. Unique ships don't stop me undocking in my regular ships, T2BPO does however rule out complete areas of T2 manufacture.

If CCP gave a selected few players a special ship that insta'd titans and was indestructible we'd call this a game imbalance, such an imbalance exists in regards to T2 manufacture.

The only people here who are bad at math are CCP. They gave out content who's value far exceeded any effort put into the game to achieve or acquire, they then stoped giving out this content. That is the worse math this game has seen and yet CCP have failed to correct this error and simply allows the error to multiply and compound with each passing day.

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Why are you still arguing with this troll after all these pages??