Missions & Complexes

New to incursions and have only heard of these two parties

Who are they? And from what I saw in the incursion channel there is drama?

And since I would like to try an incursion I have a pirate BS shield tanked which would be better to fly with and how do I go about joining one of there fleets?

Thank you for your time

TVP and ISN are both dedicated Incursion running communities keeping experienced FC’s running as many hours a day as possible. ISN has higher requirements primarily T2 large guns if you’re flying a BS. TVP will allow any dedicated pilot in a fleet they also have the Pilot numbers to compensate for slightly less than optimal pilots and make a fleet composition work.

Conversely ISN with higher requirements finds it a little more challenging to field fleets on the same scale as TVP. Both communities have strong feeling about how Incursions should be run, and the drama spills into local and Pub channels on a daily basis. As far as picking a community I would say to join the channel ‘The Valhalla Project’ and ‘ISN Secondary’ get into a fleet from both of them and try it out for a week the community that fits your game ‘play time’ and personality will help you make your decision.

As far as ISN is concerned if you fly in a TVP fleet and have T2 guns you are free to fly in an ISN fleet when we have a slot available for you. I think the drama from this week has eliminated the ability for many pilots to X up for TVP fleet as many were banned from their channel for flying in an ISN MOM site fleet. The situations will probably work itself out in a few weeks.

In the meantime get your ship fitted up. Join the two channels and link your fit in the chat.

Be prepared for much debate about how you can make it work better and what you have obviously done, wrong or right,
Don’t pay to much heed to this it is mostly a hazing for all pilots when they first start.

You will have to have TS3 installed for either community as it is the go to coms for all fleets

When you get in a fleet don’t be afraid to ask questions, any FC worth his salt should be more than happy to teach you anything you need to know on how to make ISK and not lose your ship.

If you have more questions convo Me 'Goldiiee' and i will do my best ot give you the answer or point you in the right direction.

To comment on ISN. I am 2 weeks into Incursions. I know I know late to the party. I have heard them bad mouthed for being elitist, but they accepted me brand spanking new to incursions taught me how they work how to fit for them and how to make lots of ISK. They are a great group of guys that I really enjoy flying with and will continue to fly with. Join ISN Secondary and come have a blast and make great isk.

There are a few other communities you've missed, OP. Most notably, BTL Pub, the first really big incursion channel. (for shields anyway) It's still up and going should you want to give it a try. It used to be the largest community by far until vanguards got nerfed, at which point HQs got really popular and TVP exploded.


There's also The Ditanian Fleet, should you want to run armor. It's also been around for quite a while.

True that, though I'm not sure how many are up and running atm? I think SAQD plans to start after OTAs get tweaked.

The drama mentioned above is the following:

'the agreement communities' vs ISN
agreement communities: TVP, btl, TDF and a few more.

* The agreement: to maximize ISK, several shield and armor tanking communities agreed to NOT kill the mothership site unless the incursion is "withdrawing". Killing that site means incursion despawns, and you move 10-20-30 jumps to a new incursion (if it's up). One mom site is killed by shield fleets, one by armor fleets, one is contested between the 2. All happen when mom site in "withdrawing".

* ISN: Fk the agreement, we'll kill the mom site when it's convenient to us, you're not the boss of us. Oh, this incursion where TVP/BTL/TDF etc communities have been active has low sansha influence. Let's run sites there. What do you mean we should go to another incursion ? we'll have to work in that 1 to keep the influence down and it will cut in our isk/h ratio, we can't have that. We'll just sponge off "the agreement" communities and we'll kill off the mothership site before the "withdraw" phase, to be sure WE get the isk from it.



Disclaimer: I'm not involved in any management for the agreement communities or ISN, I'm just a regular joe with some free time.

ISN could not bring down the bar themselves immediately after the Escalation NERF
After the 'nine tenths rollback' they probably could after a couple days in non amarr space ( in amarr space probably sooner )

All ISN? :)

ISN are the goons of HS. They go out their way to contest TVP sites. They will always win the contest as TVP accepts all ships and not only the shiney's.

Now i really want to see the Garfield vs Hobbes and Azrael vs Snarf fights.