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The future of Community and CCL

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#521 - 2012-09-04 23:57:19 UTC
Ah, so your the reason, I have yet to find a biscuit in New Eden.

Suppose its better to be a janitor then a test dummy as well. But good luck on your first lock.

Can you do me a favor as well, and erase all of Pipa Porto's posts in all of the eve forums?

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
gulftobay
Mesotopia
#522 - 2012-09-06 01:23:00 UTC
I'd really appreciate an answer to this question:

Why on earth hasn't the James 315 for CSM as hi-sec representative been moved from General Discussion to Jita Park Speakers Corner?

Fake edit: just moved, took nearly 23 hours.

This is frustrating for those who do try to post responsibly.
ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#523 - 2012-09-06 06:22:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Praetoxx
Well, let's get this over and done with!

I am ISD Praetoxx, one of the newest additions to the CCL team. Having played EVE for several years I am glad to be able to give something back to the community and help to make it a better place for everyone, both new and old pilots alike. I have experienced first hand the aggro that fellow capsuleers have had to endure over the years both in-game and out. Times are changing and the path before us only leads upward. There has never been a better time to get involved with the community and take a proactive role in New Eden.

Spread the word, tell your friends, tell your wife, tell your imaginary girlfriend. EVE is where it's happening and they don't want to miss the fun!

My EVE career started out in late 2004 flying my trusty Cormorant doing L2 missions. Of course, at this point in the game I was completely unaware of how to fit my ship correctly or just what exactly I was supposed to be training for. Remember the days of Learning Skills to boost your skill training speed? Yeah, I never knew about those for the first 2 years. I can say that and be proud of it! At one point I remember fitting all 3 types of reppers to my ship (shield, armor and hull) so that I wouldn't get killed. That and I liked the graphic effects of the hull repper.

It wasn't until I joined a decent corporation and they showed me the error of my ways that my true adventure into the world of EVE started.

Fast forward about 7 years and I am now a top ranking officer in a very well established corporation. I am flying with several other accounts involved in almost every aspect EVE has to offer. One more account can't hurt right?

I am sure I will see many of you on my adventures on the forums, and you will see a lot of me as I take part in your discussions!

Until we meet again my fellow pod pilot's.

- ISD Praetoxx

ISD Praetoxx Lieutenant Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#524 - 2012-09-06 12:43:53 UTC
I'm going to just make yet another note in this thread, expressing my concern over the complete lack of feedback which is available if someone were to have their posts either deleted or edited by someone on the mod team. I've made a few posts over the last couple of months, and the only reason I've seen that a few of them have been edited or deleted is because I've been actively monitoring a specific thread where it happened. Apart from that, I am absolutely clueless, and as such there is absolutely no feedback to me (or anyone else) what they may or may not have done wrong, there's absolutely no recourse to dispute the removal or edit of a post (since we generally have absolutely no clue it has happened).

Is there any plans at all to rectify this, or will we have to either just assume all our posts are unmolested/undeleted, or will we have to regularly go through all our posts the last 2 weeks to see if there's any posts there which we're missing or has been edited?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#525 - 2012-09-06 13:30:08 UTC
I am here to testify that all my deleted or edited posts, were all justified. And were done on a fair basis.

Look forward to more inspirational posters on how to post well. Thanks to my probation sentence punishments.

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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#526 - 2012-09-06 20:46:27 UTC
gulftobay wrote:
I'd really appreciate an answer to this question:

Why on earth hasn't the James 315 for CSM as hi-sec representative been moved from General Discussion to Jita Park Speakers Corner?

Fake edit: just moved, took nearly 23 hours.

This is frustrating for those who do try to post responsibly.



Hi Gulftobay,

I would like to apologize that you found our response time frustrating, I am grateful that you maintained a responsible attitude in the meantime.

I can only attempt to justify it by stating that we are as of yet a small team, and we can only cover so-much timezone.

We would be very happy to receive more applications to the volunteer programme to help with this, however!

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#527 - 2012-09-07 07:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rats
Why aren't ISD consistent, i see quite minor infractions banned or locked yet when a player says that another should "die badly" its ignored ?

ISD have been in the thread to move it but seemed to ignore the off topic, no content trolling which is very offensive and slightly creepy tbh

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1890739#post1890739

P.S that thread should not have been moved as you have now killed it, and it was a general discussion on solo play. Please move it back, or be consistent and move every thread discussing the game and how it should be played into the Ideas forum.

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
ISD BiscuitThief
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#528 - 2012-09-07 08:02:15 UTC
Rats wrote:

ISD have been in the thread to move it but seemed to ignore the off topic, no content trolling which is very offensive and slightly creepy tbh


Oops, my bad, I'll go take another look through that thread now. Sorry if I left anything in there which should have been removed. If anyone thinks I miss something in the future (in any threads), please go right ahead and report the offending posts, so that we can go straight to them and check them out.

ISD BiscuitThief Ensign Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#529 - 2012-09-07 18:53:48 UTC
Rats wrote:
Why aren't ISD consistent, i see quite minor infractions banned or locked yet when a player says that another should "die badly" its ignored ?

ISD have been in the thread to move it but seemed to ignore the off topic, no content trolling which is very offensive and slightly creepy tbh

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1890739#post1890739

P.S that thread should not have been moved as you have now killed it, and it was a general discussion on solo play. Please move it back, or be consistent and move every thread discussing the game and how it should be played into the Ideas forum.

Tal

It is possible to miss a post.

Thats why, if I find something that I would moderate if I were an ISD, I use the report feature.
Talus Veran
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#530 - 2012-09-07 23:07:51 UTC
So much DRAMA in this thread (or on the Forums in General)

Co-Host of the Monthly Toronto Player Gathering - Next Meet July 4th

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Pipa Porto
#531 - 2012-09-09 14:59:59 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=149117&p=26

This isn't how GD works. You don't get to have your thread locked just because you're losing the argument.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#532 - 2012-09-09 22:55:17 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=149117&p=26

This isn't how GD works. You don't get to have your thread locked just because you're losing the argument.

However it is standard policy to do so at the request of the OP.


Can't stand it, but its official.
Pipa Porto
#533 - 2012-09-10 05:17:21 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=149117&p=26

This isn't how GD works. You don't get to have your thread locked just because you're losing the argument.

However it is standard policy to do so at the request of the OP.


Can't stand it, but its official.


Really? You're kidding. That's their official policy?*

Combine that with the ban on resurrecting locked threads and there's some great potential there for getting the mods to troll for you.

*P.S. Any chance it's a public policy that you can link to? I mean, I know CCP and the idea of Publishing Policies and Rules aren't great friends, but...

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#534 - 2012-09-10 11:35:49 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Rats wrote:
Why aren't ISD consistent, i see quite minor infractions banned or locked yet when a player says that another should "die badly" its ignored ?

ISD have been in the thread to move it but seemed to ignore the off topic, no content trolling which is very offensive and slightly creepy tbh

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1890739#post1890739

P.S that thread should not have been moved as you have now killed it, and it was a general discussion on solo play. Please move it back, or be consistent and move every thread discussing the game and how it should be played into the Ideas forum.

Tal

It is possible to miss a post.

Thats why, if I find something that I would moderate if I were an ISD, I use the report feature.



Bully for you, but as ISD already came back to me in this thread that is here to discuss moderation then your input isn't needed.

Thanks anyway

Tal



I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#535 - 2012-09-10 18:50:10 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=149117&p=26

This isn't how GD works. You don't get to have your thread locked just because you're losing the argument.

However it is standard policy to do so at the request of the OP.


Can't stand it, but its official.


Really? You're kidding. That's their official policy?*

Combine that with the ban on resurrecting locked threads and there's some great potential there for getting the mods to troll for you.

*P.S. Any chance it's a public policy that you can link to? I mean, I know CCP and the idea of Publishing Policies and Rules aren't great friends, but...

I remember it from the old forum, but a search isn't leading me anywhere helpful.


All I know is, they have been doing it for a while. If the OP requests a lock, a lock is received.Sad
Pipa Porto
#536 - 2012-09-11 00:45:45 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=149117&p=26

This isn't how GD works. You don't get to have your thread locked just because you're losing the argument.

However it is standard policy to do so at the request of the OP.


Can't stand it, but its official.


Really? You're kidding. That's their official policy?*

Combine that with the ban on resurrecting locked threads and there's some great potential there for getting the mods to troll for you.

*P.S. Any chance it's a public policy that you can link to? I mean, I know CCP and the idea of Publishing Policies and Rules aren't great friends, but...

I remember it from the old forum, but a search isn't leading me anywhere helpful.


All I know is, they have been doing it for a while. If the OP requests a lock, a lock is received.Sad


I wasn't doubting you, it's the exact type of insanity that I kind of expect from CCP's forum policies.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
#537 - 2012-09-11 23:34:10 UTC
If you can get the ISDs to get more in line with how Suvetar is handling things, you stand a chance. There is a distinct tone resonating with a few of the ISD that is edgier than the community will be receptive to. When you can tell an ISD is either growing impatient and/or taking a sadist pleasure in their tone while moderating then they (and their actions by proxy) are going to be hated.

More Suvetar, less Type40. I can't even watch Dr. Who now without feeling bad about myself now.
ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#538 - 2012-09-13 00:31:32 UTC
Salutation EVE Community

I am one of your brand new volunteers', and I am looking forward to helping out the EVE players base in any way I can. First things first, I am one of you. Although I have been playing EVE for years; I am by no means the end all in EVE lore or knowledge, I make no claims to be, and I will strive to provide the players accurate, timely, helpful information. I am also looking forward to interacting with the expansive EVE community in an effort to give back a little of what was freely given to me.

See you in the forums!

ISD Flidais Asagiri Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#539 - 2012-09-13 01:22:19 UTC
gulftobay wrote:
I'd really appreciate an answer to this question:

Why on earth hasn't the James 315 for CSM as hi-sec representative been moved from General Discussion to Jita Park Speakers Corner?

Fake edit: just moved, took nearly 23 hours.

This is frustrating for those who do try to post responsibly.

Better question is why was that thread locked?

I reported this bizarre locking of James 315's CSM candidacy thread,
but the thread is still locked
and the mod who did it is still a mod, let alone not banned from EVE-O forums like I strongly recommended he should be

kind of curious about the backlog of this stuff, CCP/ISD
Pipa Porto
#540 - 2012-09-13 01:26:31 UTC
^^^

ISD Praetoxx wrote:
Thread Locked.

Fellow pilots are reminded to keep replies constructive, on-topic and friendly. The forum hamsters will love you for it!


I'm confused. How can we reply in a constructive, on-topic, and friendly manner to a locked thread?

Did you hit the lock button by accident?

Regardless, don't be lazy. Trolling calls for cleaning the thread, not locking it.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto