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SOE President Talks Sandbox

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Trendon Evenstar
Olympus Gods
#21 - 2012-09-07 16:33:42 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Fatbottom Girl wrote:
I just love the fact that industry dudes actually play the games they make.
Yes but when it's made public that the CEO of a major gaming division plays for one of the troll alliances in EVE Online how can that not impact one's perspective on the corporation they represent?


That makes no sense. If someone played as a Horde character in WoW, being an evil race and evil faction, that doesn't make them an evil person IRL.

We're talking ROLE-PLAYING GAMES here. It's not real friend.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-09-07 16:34:45 UTC
eve is real
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#23 - 2012-09-07 16:35:23 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Fatbottom Girl wrote:
I just love the fact that industry dudes actually play the games they make.
Yes but when it's made public that the CEO of a major gaming division plays for one of the troll alliances in EVE Online how can that not impact one's perspective on the corporation they represent?
It certainly improved my perception of him (and SOE), which has always been a bit on the grumpy side ever since the abandonment of Planetside (oh, and SWG, I suppose, although I never played it).

If he has come to understand the value of community, then yay.
Too-Boku
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-09-07 16:36:53 UTC
I like the possibilities of offline progression in PS2 and I think there's a couple other games out there that picked up on the offline progression thing from Eve.
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-09-07 16:39:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Fatbottom Girl wrote:
I just love the fact that industry dudes actually play the games they make.
Yes but when it's made public that the CEO of a major gaming division plays for one of the troll alliances in EVE Online how can that not impact one's perspective on the corporation they represent?
It certainly improved my perception of him (and SOE), which has always been a bit on the grumpy side ever since the abandonment of Planetside (oh, and SWG, I suppose, although I never played it).

If he has come to understand the value of community, then yay.

Yeah but look at the community he's come to understand that value in...
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Too-Boku
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-09-07 16:42:18 UTC
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2012-09-07 16:42:37 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Yeah but look at the community he's come to understand that value in...
One that has fun playing games together rather than getting their panties in a twist over every little thing. Excellent choice, I must say.
C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-09-07 16:43:07 UTC
The interview paints a positive picture about the CEO but oh boy, the experiences with SOE are still haunting me in my nightmares. They have/had good games but they are professionals in alienating their costumer base away.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#29 - 2012-09-07 16:47:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Yeah but look at the community he's come to understand that value in...
One that has fun playing games together rather than getting their panties in a twist over every little thing. Excellent choice, I must say.


I am a husband and a father. I like to think a good one. I like puppies and sunny days. I run a non-profit organization that helps alcoholics and drug addicts straighten out their lives. The group of people I play with are some of the brightest and best folks I've never met.

All because I chose to play the role of a villain in a role-playing game doesn't make me a terrible person IRL. The same goes for Smed, and CCP employees. People join guilds or corporations to play with people they enjoy hanging out with.

.

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-09-07 16:50:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Tippia wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Yeah but look at the community he's come to understand that value in...
One that has fun playing games together rather than getting their panties in a twist over every little thing. Excellent choice, I must say.
C DeLeon wrote:
The interview paints a positive picture about the CEO but oh boy, the experiences with SOE are still haunting me in my nightmares. They have/had good games but they are professionals in alienating their costumer base away.
Case in point P
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2012-09-07 16:55:24 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Case in point P
Exactly, which is why it's nice to see that he might have come to understand the value of maintaining the community — something that was woefully missing in the olden days.
Too-Boku
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-09-07 16:57:57 UTC
Personally, I hope CCP stays a private company. Would be nice to have the influx of capital an IPO would bring- you also become beholden to investors and your design hopes and dreams kinda become secondary. Stay true to the vision CCP!
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-09-07 17:00:28 UTC
Oh those EverQuest flashbacks...

We have an emergency patch to fix the emergency patch that was suppose to fix the emergency patch slated to fix the regular patch.

All the servers are up, except Bristlebroken, which is still down.

We know bards can not play their songs but will fix them with next week's patch.

We know these two expansions were suppose to be one expansion. But we figured we would give the players a challenge by having the monsters be extreme difficult with this expansion and the means to kill them next expansion.

We know the main boss for this expansion was a naked human that dropped a cloth cap. We did not expect the players to beat it this quickly (we're still creating the expansion through patches).

Rangers are not overpowered.

And of course the forums filled with VAKs at first until Sony bought out Verant and they became SAKs.
Othran
Route One
#34 - 2012-09-07 17:05:34 UTC
Too-Boku wrote:
Personally, I hope CCP stays a private company. Would be nice to have the influx of capital an IPO would bring- you also become beholden to investors and your design hopes and dreams kinda become secondary. Stay true to the vision CCP!


CCP have been "beholden" to investors for a very long time now. There's not much of CCP left in the hands of the original founders/shareholders.

An IPO would, if anything, reduce the influence individual investors have. That may or may not be a good thing.
Too-Boku
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-09-07 17:08:37 UTC
Othran wrote:
Too-Boku wrote:
Personally, I hope CCP stays a private company. Would be nice to have the influx of capital an IPO would bring- you also become beholden to investors and your design hopes and dreams kinda become secondary. Stay true to the vision CCP!


CCP have been "beholden" to investors for a very long time now. There's not much of CCP left in the hands of the original founders/shareholders.

An IPO would, if anything, reduce the influence individual investors have. That may or may not be a good thing.


Well yeah but is there anyone who has the ability to say: Hey, we don't like this current direction, we think you should spend more time on walking in stations..?
Othran
Route One
#36 - 2012-09-07 17:19:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Too-Boku wrote:
Well yeah but is there anyone who has the ability to say: Hey, we don't like this current direction, we think you should spend more time on walking in stations..?


There are people who certainly have the ability to say "wtf is happening to revenue (subs)" which is much the same thing.

Individual investors/venture capital groups bought into the revenue stream that is Eve, simple as that. They've had a pretty rocky road with WoD/Dust costs and someone made the decision to pull the plug on WoD/Incarna (more or less) - I doubt that was a purely internal decision.

The danger with IPOs is that decisions of that nature are unlikely to be made that quickly and may in some cases happen too late.

/me shrugs, CCP has been effectively owned by venture capital for most of Eve's life.....
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2012-09-07 17:21:48 UTC
After SWG I had nothing but distrust for smedley but he gets a massive +1 for everything he said here.

PS2 is sounding fantastic.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#38 - 2012-09-07 17:28:42 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
After SWG I had nothing but distrust for smedley but he gets a massive +1 for everything he said here.

PS2 is sounding fantastic.


Basically. One might hope that he's learned a useful lesson.

And ofc one ought to remember the role that Lucas Arts played in SWG's death.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2012-09-07 17:31:09 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Wondering if the fact this is on the goon news site may have any negative impact on the journalistic integrity of the article. Well atleast it's not just more nullsec crap.

James 315 wrote:
TheMittani.com scores another big win, securing an interview with the SOE president! Clearly, TM is seen as the chief representative of EVE's playerbase. Smile
No not really, just means someone at that rag has industry connections.



Articles on TM.com have much more integrity than those on EN24. Riv's articles are the most biased hate filled rants I;ve seen come out of the eve community.

If you read TM.com arrticles, mittens gives opponents of the CFC lots of credit when they score kills on us or score some sort of advantage.

FC, what do?

TharOkha
0asis Group
#40 - 2012-09-07 17:33:31 UTC
SOE CEO John Smedley:
Quote:
"I created my character with Piracy in mind"


True face of Sony Twisted