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New defense tactics for in coming changes in FW

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#121 - 2012-09-05 20:21:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
BolsterBomb wrote:
Yuri Intaki wrote:
Quentin Marshall wrote:
I really wish most of the bitter vets would leave CalMil and let the new guards take over.


If we are, as you say, irrelevant bitter people in small corps, then how come it is possible that supposedly we are to fault about the whole sorry situation you find yourself in?



Because the bitter vets 3itch the loudest and cause the most internal upset.

I have chat logs of MANY MANY bittervets telling people that I am a gallente spy as well as the other Kraken leadership. Lots of chat logs. Anyone that actually had weight was deemed a spy and was spread throughout other channels.

All it takes in a militia is to get the little irrelevant corps to start causing rakus to disrupt the whole boat. Which is what they did. Have a couple bitter vets start spreading rumors that Bolsterbomb is making isk hand over fist off the militia and then have one sorry reject (dragon sn1per) take it to an extreme to DDOS a team speak server that the entire militia used.

Its like putting the bullet in the gun and handing it to the guy while whispering in his ear "do it, he deserves it, do it..."

You can say you didnt do it but the bitter vets caused enough of a problem to disrupt the norm.

Just as an example: One bitter vet trolled the heck out of the intel channel over something his corpmate did, in the meantime one bitter vet came online (the only admin..hint hint...) banned half of militia from the channel.

In all the items that were setup by myself for the militia there were no less then 6 Admins that had access to all roles and user granted privileges. Including people I think are the biggest bitter *ickhead vets out there

All it takes in militia is for several guys to cross their arms and plant their feet to start problems. It isnt that they can cause the disruption by themself, its that they cause the wave of disruption. When people see this it is a ripple effect. If they arent going to do it, neither am I and so forth.

Anyone can destroy a militia easily. You can be one person that simply has a voice and all goes down the crapper.

That is how the disruption of cal mil occured. The bitter vets are simply bitter vets and will always be the problem. As an ex gallente that is one thing I see the difference in. Cal Mil bitter vets would rather sit in their single system and do what they want complaining and 3itching at the others while doing nothing. I can rattle off their names and several examples but it would do no good. I am simply grateful that in 2 months cal mil wont need them. Bitter Vets can go sit in their hole and complain that "Big Bad Bolster is mean"

Just for kicks. Just as an example. These bitter vets were mad because when kraken alliance was created all the people with a brain and all the people that lead fleets went over. The bitter vets were pissed, because no one was left to direct the lemmings. They did all sorts of stuff to disrupt the entire cal mil over it. They had these p1ss ant corps up in arms because they didnt have any fcs.

My response now, awwww you dont have an FC in your corp. Sounds like you need a new corp. Awww your ceo wasnt involved in the planning. Sounds like you need a new corp. Even when nthe forums were up and I had all militia ceos access to vote on what direction the militia should go CEOS wouldnt participate, but they sure liked to 3itch about it later.

Welcome to Cal Mil




Best. Battlereport. Ever !

Come home Bolster. You've completed the job we assigned to you .

Dopified and the rest of us will be eagerly awaiting your arrival with a welcome home party !

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#122 - 2012-09-05 20:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Bolsterbomb wrote:
I have chat logs of MANY MANY bittervets telling people that I am a gallente spy as well as the other Kraken leadership.


I dare you to post the chatlogs. In fact, I double dare you.

Quote:
I can rattle off their names and several examples


I triple dare you to rattle off those names and provide examples. TRIPLE DARE!
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#123 - 2012-09-05 20:30:50 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Bolsterbomb wrote:
I have chat logs of MANY MANY bittervets telling people that I am a gallente spy as well as the other Kraken leadership.


I dare you to post the chatlogs. In fact, I double dare you.


Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#124 - 2012-09-05 20:33:05 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on.

I am disrespect.
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
#125 - 2012-09-05 20:38:14 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on.

I am disrespect.


Removing roles.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#126 - 2012-09-05 20:39:42 UTC
Juan Rayo wrote:
Removing roles.

Application to Frog Steamers submitted.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#127 - 2012-09-05 20:51:01 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:

Thing is that those vets have seen a lot of things before, many internal wardec and drama before, those vets have just what you ask to do, they usually have FC of their own, they have woking concepts for different things. They do not really want to participate every new try to do something else than just play FW.

You are not any special Bolsterbomb, you faced same problems than everybody else who tried to do same things before, and you could not solve those problems.

If you want to unite whole militia it requires lot of more than you have done.






And it starts by sending all bitter vets to amar.



Maybe it is easier to send you to amarr, there is not left much old vets Lol
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#128 - 2012-09-05 21:05:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Juan Rayo wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Dude. You're face ! Please put the goggles back on.

I am disrespect.


Removing roles.


If XG goes, so goes Wispa.

Wispa + Xg + Bolster = Big Playz !

We just need to get Gavin back.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
#129 - 2012-09-05 21:11:29 UTC
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#130 - 2012-09-05 21:35:08 UTC
Juan Rayo wrote:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2760/galmiltackler4.jpg


epic

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation

Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#131 - 2012-09-05 22:13:46 UTC
Nahzgul was in short shorts when he joined dark and only slightly longer ones when he left. FW was however just a twinkle in a devs eye ;)

just because your paranoid, doesn't mean there not after you ;)

DARK RISING Stop playing EVE Start living it

Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#132 - 2012-09-06 00:10:01 UTC
Juan Rayo wrote:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2760/galmiltackler4.jpg


You forgot to include the headliner, "Gal Mil Alt Corp, Happy Endings, Forces Eha Militia To Failcascade"

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#133 - 2012-09-06 02:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Killz
Well some in this thread are pretty naive if they believe any of the other milltia's are REALLY organized (Caldari milltia is NOT alone). Infact, there's always pilots hating on the most powerful or well organized corporations and alliances. I've been in 3 of the 4 milltias since factional warfare began and I must say the "politics" are often the same. Which is why I have no interest in it. Most of the people talking (politics) are weak anyways. Which is why they rely on words and whatever form of diplomacy (standings) to make up for lack of ability.

Also, Damar and BM are paranoid. What of it? I find the aforementioned endearing = ) Plus they often say and do things that has been getting players angry for years v0v



Anyway. Doubt these changes will effect the factional wafare too negatively, so I'm good with it so far. However, Caldari may lose alot of corporations and some alliance due to these changes. I understand BM's interest in CCP forcing some kind of reason for us to fight, but I know alot of corporations/alliances develop thier own reasons to fight (not suprising?). Which has alot to do with lack of organization (diffirent interest). There will never be enough dedicated factional warfare corporations/alliances, because factional warfare is just 1 small aspect of this game. There's still bigger, better things an entity can achieve outside of factional warfare.

For this corporation. The reason for joining was to improve the experience and ability of our pilots (and remove j*w* and fatties). Isk/LP was not factored into that decision. However, Lp/Isk was stated as a benifit. I still believe factional warfare is a good place to produce good pilots in a short amount of time. So yes! USING Caldari milltia and factional warfare to become stronger (suprising, I know).


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[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#134 - 2012-09-06 06:12:06 UTC
Best. Thread. Ever.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#135 - 2012-09-06 06:32:32 UTC
*popcorn*
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch
#136 - 2012-09-06 08:25:37 UTC
This is why we all love Caldari militia. It's the GoT's north. Too big, savage and unruly to be commanded by a single man. Everyone should join our ranks and become as hairy, cool, beer guzzling savages as us Lol
Poison Ivvy
Happy Endings.
Good Sax
#137 - 2012-09-06 14:49:31 UTC
Yo guys we are totally Gall alts!!!

I´m just loling at Damars latest attempt to get some attention :)
May we have a long and fruitfull war, here in HE we are patient I hope I´ll break your year and half record time war so we can take special spot in all of Naery´s minds.

Now back to loling at all this drama that we could care less for :) We be here for the awesome pew epw and ty to Galls for never dissapointing HE in that aspect keep good fight coming!

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#138 - 2012-09-06 15:24:52 UTC
Two prominent members of the Caldari have been dared to post text of internal Caldari affairs as proof of conflict - I say DOUBLE dared, and even once triple dared. And.... nothing.

I can only conclude this drama is a Caldari militia conspiracy to divert attention from discussing CCP's proposed mechanics that will essentially favor the vast minions of Caldari (soon to become defensive) plexing alts.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#139 - 2012-09-06 15:40:35 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Two prominent members of the Caldari have been dared to post text of internal Caldari affairs as proof of conflict - I say DOUBLE dared, and even once triple dared. And.... nothing.

I can only conclude this drama is a Caldari militia conspiracy to divert attention from discussing CCP's proposed mechanics that will essentially favor the vast minions of Caldari (soon to become defensive) plexing alts.


I do not know about that, internal wardecs are used strategy in militia so this issue fits fine in this thread.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#140 - 2012-09-06 15:44:56 UTC
Poison Ivvy wrote:
Yo guys we are totally Gall alts!!!

I´m just loling at Damars latest attempt to get some attention :)
May we have a long and fruitfull war, here in HE we are patient I hope I´ll break your year and half record time war so we can take special spot in all of Naery´s minds.

Now back to loling at all this drama that we could care less for :) We be here for the awesome pew epw and ty to Galls for never dissapointing HE in that aspect keep good fight coming!



It was some bitter caldari militia alt who started to talk about your wardec in here.