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irishFour
Almost Dangerous
#1 - 2012-09-06 02:12:10 UTC
What do ECM drones do.

Is there a nueting drone?

thanks

I like to have my cake and eat it too
Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-09-06 03:04:47 UTC
ECM drones have a chance to prevent your target from locking you
Yes, Acolyte EV-600
theres also webbing drones, trackign disrupting drones, sensor dampening drones...every ewar you can think of theres a drone for it
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-09-06 03:38:32 UTC
Abannan wrote:
ECM drones have a chance to prevent your target from locking you
Yes, Acolyte EV-600
theres also webbing drones, trackign disrupting drones, sensor dampening drones...every ewar you can think of theres a drone for it

The matari drones target paint.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-09-06 04:32:13 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Abannan wrote:
ECM drones have a chance to prevent your target from locking you
Yes, Acolyte EV-600
theres also webbing drones, trackign disrupting drones, sensor dampening drones...every ewar you can think of theres a drone for it

The matari drones target paint.


yes.....?
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-09-06 12:09:01 UTC
Abannan wrote:
ECM drones have a chance to prevent your target from locking you
Yes, Acolyte EV-600
theres also webbing drones, trackign disrupting drones, sensor dampening drones...every ewar you can think of theres a drone for it


No scrambler drones or bubble drones yet. Cool
Fleet Warpsujarento
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-09-06 12:29:07 UTC
The only good ones are ECM drones.

The others are borderline useful in certain situations, but are pointless most of the time.
Wilhelm Riley
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-09-06 14:48:40 UTC
I'd like to see a 50m3 Warp Disruptor drone Twisted
Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
#8 - 2012-09-06 14:55:14 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
The matari drones target paint.

I would have thought targeting ships would be more useful.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-06 16:08:26 UTC
Abannan wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Abannan wrote:
ECM drones have a chance to prevent your target from locking you
Yes, Acolyte EV-600
theres also webbing drones, trackign disrupting drones, sensor dampening drones...every ewar you can think of theres a drone for it

The matari drones target paint.


yes.....?

I was not arguing. Only wanted to add to what you already provided.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-09-06 20:56:18 UTC
Fleet Warpsujarento wrote:
The only good ones are ECM drones.

The others are borderline useful in certain situations, but are pointless most of the time.


For the most part I agree. I could see a raven pilot who can't afford to put painters in the mid slots or use flare/catalyst rigs using medium webber/painter drones to get their missiles to hit cruisers harder while keeping T2 lights for frigates, but that sort of usage is very niche.

I used to use heavy webbers in some typhoon and navy megathron setups for missions, back before MWDs were allowed in all missions, but when the nano-nerf double nerfed, or over-nerfed depending on your point of view, them I no longer saw a point to webber drones in PvE. Going from needing 125mb/3 to field the equivalent of a mobile mid to upper range named webber to the same cost for something that goes half the speed of most frigates with MWD frigates and is less effective at slowing them than T1 webbers was just overkill.

While light and medium webber drones have helped address the speed issue the trickle down mechanics of their speed reduction have resulted in them being very much pre-nerfed. Sadly I doubt CCP will ever un-nerf webber drones and make them into something actually worth fielding for any but the most niche of setups.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#11 - 2012-09-06 21:04:30 UTC
On the subject of utility drones, logi drones can be really useful.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#12 - 2012-09-06 22:31:07 UTC
I have a question about ECM drones. Medium ECM gets a jam strength of 1.5, so at first glance five drones would seem like a jam strength of 7.5:
"Chance to Jam = ( Your ECM Strength / Target's Sensor Strength ) * 100% "

But there is also a separate formula for using multiple jammers:
"Chance to Jam = (1 -(1 - Your ECM Strength / Target's Sensor Strength ) ^ The number of jammers of this strength)*100% "

So which formula do ECM drones use?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Cap James Tkirk
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#13 - 2012-09-06 22:53:34 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
I have a question about ECM drones. Medium ECM gets a jam strength of 1.5, so at first glance five drones would seem like a jam strength of 7.5:
"Chance to Jam = ( Your ECM Strength / Target's Sensor Strength ) * 100% "

But there is also a separate formula for using multiple jammers:
"Chance to Jam = (1 -(1 - Your ECM Strength / Target's Sensor Strength ) ^ The number of jammers of this strength)*100% "

So which formula do ECM drones use?



its calculated per drone not a total strength of all drones on field
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-09-06 22:58:35 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Abannan wrote:
ECM drones have a chance to prevent your target from locking you
Yes, Acolyte EV-600
theres also webbing drones, trackign disrupting drones, sensor dampening drones...every ewar you can think of theres a drone for it

The matari drones target paint.



The only only useful ewar drones you (OP) should ever care are ECM ones (Caldari), you will love to have them to help you and hate to get them on top of you.

brb