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Ishtar Mission Fit Suggestions for lvl4s
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ArgosDes
The Pathfinders
#1 - 2012-09-01 18:45:46 UTC
Hey, all. I plan on doing some casual lvl4 missioning with my buddies but what kind of mission fit would you guys suggest (for an Ishtar)? I have very good drone skills. Armor vs. Shield Tanking? Thanks.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-09-01 21:25:55 UTC
shield tank with drone damage amps in the lows
Seraph Castillon
In Control
Neon Nightmares
#3 - 2012-09-02 11:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Castillon
[Ishtar, PvE Armor]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Dual 150mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
Dual 150mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
Dual 150mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5


If you faction the drone modules you can probably fit bigger guns. Edit: yes you can fit 200mm Rails with FN Omni's for a slight DPS boost (and better drone performance).


It's hard to shield tank an Ishtar without going nuts price wise since passive shield tanking isn't really an option anymore.
ArgosDes
The Pathfinders
#4 - 2012-09-02 18:39:04 UTC
Good suggestions. Appreciate your help guys!
Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-09-02 23:54:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Dennis Gregs
I stand corrected, disregard.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2012-09-03 03:28:23 UTC
You need two omnis and a propulsion mod on the Ishtar, which means you can't shield tank it, end of story.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2012-09-03 05:28:26 UTC
Seraph Castillon wrote:
[Ishtar, PvE Armor]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Dual 150mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
Dual 150mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
Dual 150mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5


If you faction the drone modules you can probably fit bigger guns. Edit: yes you can fit 200mm Rails with FN Omni's for a slight DPS boost (and better drone performance).


It's hard to shield tank an Ishtar without going nuts price wise since passive shield tanking isn't really an option anymore.


The fact of the matter is that those SDAs aren't doing much for you anymore. Dropping them and swapping for whatever (two CCCs will get you cap stable, ANPs will help your tank, etc) will let you upgrade all the way to 250s if you so choose. You lose 54 drone DPS for dropping both (remember, they are under the DDAs in the stack and so are rather heavily penalized). This should all fit and get you slightly more overall damage:


[Ishtar, PvE Armor]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5

As a nice side benefit, it fits with Drone Rigging 4 instead of 5 (as was required by the original).
Seraph Castillon
In Control
Neon Nightmares
#8 - 2012-09-03 08:02:58 UTC
I don't agree that they're not doing much. 40 DPS is 40 DPS. Howerver, your fit is better. I had forgotten about the CPU problems it has with a lesser drone rigging skill and/or without CPU implants.

Drop to 200mm rails if you still have problems fitting it.

A Drone Link Augmentor would be useful on there too. Sadly it will cost you your guns if you fit one.
ArgosDes
The Pathfinders
#9 - 2012-09-03 18:46:43 UTC
Yea I only have drone rigging 4 and having 250mm guns on is nice indeed. Going with a combo of armor and speed tanks will allow you to optimize your dps. Thanks, all.
DankoShepard
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-09-05 23:18:43 UTC
Hello guys, watching your replies comes a question to my mind, isn't better to fit two target painters instead of the tracking mods? that way drones get a bigger target to shot and the Ishtar will help everyone else running the mission.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#11 - 2012-09-06 03:11:42 UTC
DankoShepard wrote:
Hello guys, watching your replies comes a question to my mind, isn't better to fit two target painters instead of the tracking mods? that way drones get a bigger target to shot and the Ishtar will help everyone else running the mission.


target painter doesn't make drone hit further away, OTL's optimal bonus does.
You need increased tracking for sentries if they need to hit faster objects. You can target paint something, but you still need tracking so your sentries can "rotate" faster to follow object.
Target painters use cap.