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Bowie Monarch
Q.Q.
#1 - 2012-09-01 09:49:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bowie Monarch
Is it possible to solo C4 sleeper sites? If not, can they be run by a 2 person gang?

What ships / fittings would it take to just do the combat sites.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2012-09-01 11:27:15 UTC
Faction/deadspace fitted Golem will easily clear C4s, but you will need T2 salvagers.

Fit warp core stabalizers and ECCM for the possible baddies, and Expanded Cargo Bays to hold all the loot.



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Adam Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-01 12:29:55 UTC
Roime wrote:
Faction/deadspace fitted Golem will easily clear C4s, but you will need T2 salvagers.

Fit warp core stabalizers and ECCM for the possible baddies, and Expanded Cargo Bays to hold all the loot.





A Golem won't exactly cut the mustard, these are C4's we're talking about.

Try an officer fitted Phoenix, it has a better tank.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-09-01 15:46:09 UTC
Tengu can do them but it is very very slow solo.

2 man tengu team no problem at all, but you will need deadspace boost amp/booster etc
Tommassino Preldent
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-09-01 19:31:55 UTC
2 man speedtanking tengus (build cost ~600M) can do it, 1man aswell, but its slow
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-09-01 21:41:57 UTC
Certain heavily skilled and expensive Tengu fits can solo these sites, as can a dual x-large ancillary shield booster machariel (as proven by Keith Planck).

I prefer the cheaper method of running 2-3 toons in a standard C5 remote remote tengu (all passive with shield transporter).

You can also use 2 dps 1 basi but this is slower.

Svodola Darkfury.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Beta Stryker
Yet Another Holding Corporation
#7 - 2012-09-02 01:31:48 UTC
Adam Junior wrote:
Roime wrote:
Faction/deadspace fitted Golem will easily clear C4s, but you will need T2 salvagers.

Fit warp core stabalizers and ECCM for the possible baddies, and Expanded Cargo Bays to hold all the loot.





A Golem won't exactly cut the mustard, these are C4's we're talking about.

Try an officer fitted Phoenix, it has a better tank.


Ahh, this stinks of troll. Anybody w/ half a brain will know torps aren't gonna do crap to cruisers/frigs in there. GL w/ drones.

Officer fitted Phoenix? Lead me there so I may r@pe them visciously target paint for them.
Marcus McTavish
Volcel Police
#8 - 2012-09-02 02:31:05 UTC
I found that using two Tengu Characters that have decently good skills worked fine.

High Slots:
5 HMLs
1 Large Shield Transmitter

Medium Slots:
1 Large Shield Extender (Tech 2)
2 Adaptive Invulnerability Fields (Tech 2)
2 EM Ward Amplifiers (Tech 2)

Low Slots:
2 Ballistic Control Units (Tech 2)
1 Damage Control Unit (Tech 2)
1 Power Diagnostic Unit (Tech 2)
1 Capacitor Power Relay (Tech 2)

Rigs:
0-1 Explosive Shield Resist rigs
2-3 Capacitor Control Circuits

Adaptive Shielding, CPU Efficiency Gate, Cap Regen Matrix. Accelerated Ejection Bay, Intercalated Nano

Gets over 1000 tank (I think).

Two of them can tank C4 Anoms. When they target one of the Tengus, have the other one Rep the one that is taking fire.

If one tengu is getting neuted, Turn Off or Stagger the Repairs. Sleepers tend to focus fire.

Also, if you drop a missile in a Jet can, setting both Tengus to orbit the can at 2,500 Meters, helps reduce damage.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-09-02 06:50:42 UTC
yes it is possible.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2012-09-02 07:34:23 UTC
Beta Stryker wrote:
Adam Junior wrote:
Roime wrote:
Faction/deadspace fitted Golem will easily clear C4s, but you will need T2 salvagers.

Fit warp core stabalizers and ECCM for the possible baddies, and Expanded Cargo Bays to hold all the loot.





A Golem won't exactly cut the mustard, these are C4's we're talking about.

Try an officer fitted Phoenix, it has a better tank.


Ahh, this stinks of troll. Anybody w/ half a brain will know torps aren't gonna do crap to cruisers/frigs in there. GL w/ drones.

Officer fitted Phoenix? Lead me there so I may r@pe them visciously target paint for them.


I would never troll.

I've seen a Golem performing extremely well in a C3, it only had to warp out once. It also lasted for well over a minute against my Megathron. This implies that it would also be suitable for the OP in C4 sleeper PVE.

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Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#11 - 2012-09-02 14:15:09 UTC
Two tengus is probably the best and least complicated way to "solo" C4s.

If you don't want to use tengus this might be an interesting read.

Got blog: http://thecloakedones.blogspot.com
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-09-02 23:58:14 UTC
Roime wrote:
Beta Stryker wrote:
Adam Junior wrote:
Roime wrote:
Faction/deadspace fitted Golem will easily clear C4s, but you will need T2 salvagers.

Fit warp core stabalizers and ECCM for the possible baddies, and Expanded Cargo Bays to hold all the loot.





A Golem won't exactly cut the mustard, these are C4's we're talking about.

Try an officer fitted Phoenix, it has a better tank.


Ahh, this stinks of troll. Anybody w/ half a brain will know torps aren't gonna do crap to cruisers/frigs in there. GL w/ drones.

Officer fitted Phoenix? Lead me there so I may r@pe them visciously target paint for them.


I would never troll.

I've seen a Golem performing extremely well in a C3, it only had to warp out once. It also lasted for well over a minute against my Megathron. This implies that it would also be suitable for the OP in C4 sleeper PVE.



C4 sleepers will neut you from 65km and your torps are never going to reach them..
Nash MacAllister
Air
The Initiative.
#13 - 2012-09-04 12:07:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nash MacAllister
Ashimat wrote:
Two tengus is probably the best and least complicated way to "solo" C4s.

If you don't want to use tengus this might be an interesting read.


Confirming this works and is a handy setup since it is 1 combat and 1 support character. The Rattlesnake does have a pretty hefty skill set to train to be good with it. And this setup is not by any means fast.

Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...
Marsan
#14 - 2012-09-04 16:34:12 UTC
Why must everyone think oh I'll make more money if I run the sites all by myself. W space is more profitable with enough people to properly run the sites.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2012-09-04 18:51:02 UTC
Cage Man wrote:

C4 sleepers will neut you from 65km and your torps are never going to reach them..



There is one neat little trick how to do that, I can share it with you if you want! Grab a Golem, here's a working fit for some ideas how to set it up properly and convo me in game when you're ready, I know a good wormhole where we can test things out in peace, ok?





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Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-09-04 19:30:36 UTC
Roime wrote:
Cage Man wrote:

C4 sleepers will neut you from 65km and your torps are never going to reach them..



There is one neat little trick how to do that, I can share it with you if you want! Grab a Golem, here's a working fit for some ideas how to set it up properly and convo me in game when you're ready, I know a good wormhole where we can test things out in peace, ok?




Crazy stuff.. a short range missile boat in a wh that has a -27% to missile velocity, nice kill though. A T2 fit tengu would have suited him better in a C3
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#17 - 2012-09-04 20:44:01 UTC
When the answer is "Yes, but it's slow", can someone please define 'slow'?

Regards

Barrak
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-09-04 22:48:26 UTC
A solo tengu fit will only be doing maybe 2 sites an hour, my guess is 1 every 35-45 minutes based on the low damage.

I've never bothered trying it with under 1000 dps in fleet, so I can't give you an exact estimate.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-09-05 00:22:44 UTC
Barrak wrote:
When the answer is "Yes, but it's slow", can someone please define 'slow'?

Regards

Barrak



I used to do it solo in a Tengu and it would take round 40mins to complete. You need to be paying attention though as sleepers RR each other and you need to switch targets as a % x HML tengu will out dps the reps. You also need to keep range so you don't get neuted while spamming dscan. Not a pleasant experience. Minimum of 3 x RR tengu's is what I would recommend, although I am sure there are others who have done it differently, ie faction BS, etc