Missions & Complexes

Yes he was, infact we all were dual boxing our logi.....

Honest

Can you address the questions i asked in above post?

Thank you

Please remind me ...

Why exactly are we being dragged into this unnecessary bs with TVP?

Yeah sure, HQs are fun, but VG/AS are way more profitable and we can't even get a decent contest out of TVP failfleets. Sure, 4 NRFs in a row and we're golden, but how often do we get that?

Apart from that, this crap with us killing the mom-site is just alienating the community against us.

All of this is just hurting profit and I have 4 accounts to plex.

So again, why? Just because Ronin and Koda are 21 year old tards that seem to want to prove something or have gotten hold of the wrong textbook? ISN is about professionalism. This is childish.

Maybe those of us who want to run professional fleets should start coming up with an alternative plan sans Koda and Ronin.

PS: yes, this is an alt. Still need access to ISN-primary after all

I like the name

Voice your concern to management, ISN would prefer to hear concerns from members, than posts by alts, the members in ISN have as much voice as any1 else. Infact they have the major voice

I think in the only one in tvp that finds the contesting amusing, it does suck but hey its funnier listening to the tears :D

When 30-40 people are online, we contest fewer fleets by running HQs than running 4 VG fleets in 3-4 systems.

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Ronin will troll your asses to the ground!

Earlier I was asked by NiteOwl if I had any input for tonight's ISN Primary meeting.

[14:53:31] NiteOwl > get back to me in a reasonable time so i can get it put on the agenda

While obvious troll is obvious, I decided to form a reply anyway:

ISN is a tree chopping on its own roots. Many of the current ISN pilots got their start because TVP patiently walked them through the process of learning incursions. If ISN is successful at destroying TVP, then ISN will eventually wither and die as pilots phase out of incursioning or out of Eve. By not realizing this, ISN's leadership is killing ISN, they are just too short-sighted to see it coming. While some pilots have been hand-held through the learning process in the past week, that has mainly been about trying to get enough people to field an HQ fleet to contest TVP off the field. Once TVP is gone, this short increase in patience will go with it. To quote Maraidian's recent quote to a TVP pilot attempting to transition to ISN:

[ 2012.09.05 17:29:27 ] Maraudian > ISN is not for everyone, its better to maintain the quality of our community than to compromise it

ISN has become an extension of Herr Ronin's ego. Even the fitting standards are based solely on his whim. Look at his wording for the recent changes. "NCO's are something that interest's me, This interest has rekindled the fire for the use of my Sleipnir and Loki, that being said we are currently starting to look into brining back these fleet comps," (original errors left intact) I see a bunch of ME and MY and not a lot of US. And now he is running for CSM? ISN has become less about what's good for ISN and more what is good for Herr Ronin's ego.

Speaking of which, how is destroying TVP an accomplishment worth bragging about? Not only are most of the pilots newer than ISN pilots by definition, but TVP has done most of the heavy lifting required to destroy itself through poor managerial decisions. It's like beating your kid brother at checkers after he got mad and knocked half his pieces off the board in frustration. Is this something to be proud of? For Herr Ronin, the answer is probably yes, but how does the rest of ISN feel about this?

Herr Ronin's direction for ISN has made it look unprofessional in the eyes of the community and reflects poorly on those who fly with ISN. The ISN community now consists of Herr Ronin, a few fanatical and unintelligent disciples, and a bunch of people who are keeping their mouths shut and trying not to burn bridges while making ISK. However, it is undeniable that a lot of people are pissed off about his underhanded and immature tactics in this conflict. This kind of garbage always comes home to roost in the end in some form and it won't be just Herr Ronin who is held accountable or made to pay a price.

Those who are going along with Herr Ronin's agenda can rationalize their actions all they want. "This is EVE!" "This is how CCP meant incursions to be!" "Contests are not griefing!" All true. However, Eve and the incursion community as a whole will suffer from the loss of an inclusive, friendly, and consistent group like TVP in the end. It will all be a little colder, a little snobbier, a little smaller, a little less friendly, a little pettier, and just plain ol' less fun without TVP. All to feed one little man's ego.

It will be interesting to hear the reactions to my input at the upcoming meeting. I look forward to it.

Thank you for your feedback and point's, they will be discussed at the meeting.

Not true really Incursions were dominated by a group of FC's that got together and decided to have a farming agreement ( which I opposed but was voted down ) after CCP a bug the Kundalini manifest had made it invulnerable.
Originally the armour fleet prevailed but the sheer number of shield ships soon dominated but the agreements withstood attacks by goons, Brick/traitor turncoat Ammzi, neither of which came close to killing the agreement. Then came the CCP escalation NERF which almost killed HI sec incursions if itwas not for the FC's sticking together like it ABSOLUTELY KILLED NULL & LO SEC INCURSIONS.

The blitz fleets where always dependant on the larger 2 chat channels agreement to collect on the LP pools and to recruit.