Missions & Complexes

That was so much fun can't wait to do it again.

How come there were no logi kills? They turn tail that quickly? Was it Noble dual boxing with his logi?

Live & learn... FW lo sec sounds like a bit too hotly contested to do Incursions for my taste... see the FW tears in GD about the same lo sec incursion popping up twice in a roll there? RNG is random! Only Funnier GD thread is the NULL sec tears thread about incursions being non consensual PvE lol

goldiiee, your tirade reminds me of the saying, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

Open any book on game theory and you'll see why the ISN-TVP saga is continuing how it is. It is preferential for both parties to cooperate, but neither trusts the other (I'll leave it to others to assign fault for this) and so invariably one or the other defects.

And irrespective of who you think defected first, it's been shown that the tit-for-tat strategy is best to pursue from a utility maximization point of view before both parties agree to cooperate.

Reason and thought rarely are present here. I think a thesis on game theory could be written from the drama that happens here.

Incursion Shiny Network is a successful Incursion community that was created in the late 2011, Currently being managed by Herr Ronin, Noble Ranger and Kodavor, Incursion Shiny Network has earned its reputation by fielding full pirate faction fleets in the Incursion scene, That being said there where only a handful of communitys that could compete against our Incursion fleets, Meaning with nobody around to take us on for site or system control, We relished the rewards from the Vanguard systems.

When Inferno came knocking on Incursions doorstep, A lot of communitys fell apart with the recent Nerf, With only a short list of Incursion communitys left standing, Incursion Shiny Network started to look into Assaults, Getting the kill orders correct and keeping the standards of our community, While we still do Vanguards our main focus is currently at Assaults.




Joining Incursion Shiny Network is simple, We currently have two ingame channels, This helps us maintain our community and gives it some infastructure.

ISN Secondary - This is our "Public" channel, If you are new to our community or want to join us this is the channel that you wish to join, This enables you to join and post your fitting, If your fitting meets our standards then you will be pulled into a fleet by one of our trusted Fleet Commanders.

ISN Primary - This is our "Members" channel, Once you have joined our fleets and the Fleet Commander is happy with you and how you do in the fleet as DPS or Logi, You will then be invited here.

If you are going to join our public channel, Please do so in a mature frame of mind, If any trolling or bullying is taking place you will be banned from our channels, Please make sure you act mature.




The only ships that we fly in our community is Pirate Faction/T3 so please do not come into our channel with T1 Hulls and Meta 4 Guns, You will not be invited into fleet, We are a high standards community, I will give you more fitting information below.




Please note that we have a Mailing List for our Fittings, Our Mailing List is called "ISN Fitting" Once you have joined the mailing list it will send you a welcome mail with all our current fittings, If you are on EVE-Fit testing the fitting and wondering why you have low resistances, Are you using a Maxed OGB.







ISN Does Mothership SItes? http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23596328.jpg

FAIR WARNING

ISN has been griefing the incursion community for a few months now. After waiting well over a year for incursion pilots to realize that their way is the "best way" to play Eve to no avail, they have begun a desperate "war" to force their way of running incursions on the incursion community and to exclude anyone not willing to do it their way. They have joined fleets run by other incursion groups with logi and intentionally let ships die, then posted videos of this to promote themselves. They have pre-loaded HQ sites with the intent of causing a hazard for other groups. They have waged a propoganda war, spreading lies and slandering some very good pilots in the incursion community. They have entered into negotiations in bad faith, never intending on coming to a mutally beneficial agreement in an attempt to dishearten community leaders. I have witnessed all of these things and waited patiently for them to grow bored, but alas they are easily amused.

ISN's goal is simply to control all of incursions and to force pilots to adhere to their strict (shiny/expensive) fitting guidelines. This of course excludes most newer pilots. While this is well within the Eve mentality of elitism, it is (imho) bad for the community and the game as a whole. For a very accurate description of ISN's leadership, see this post.

I am tired of waiting for someone to organize a resistance to this and so I have taken action on my own. I have a logi pilot (or 2) who is embedded within the ISN community. This pilot will fly for hours without incident and wait for a key member of ISN to be primaried at a particularly nasty time and then reps will be withheld (or just a bit "slow") with the goal of seeing that ship destroyed. This pilot has been successful already and will succeed again. I do not enjoy this style of play, but feel it is the most effective way to fight back against ISN's strategy, and sometimes fire must be fought with fire.

If you routinely fly with ISN, you are in danger of losing your ship because of this. While I will try to target ISN directors, officers, and those highly active on the griefing front, this is far from an exact science, and war being war, unintended casualties are unavoidable.

Are you an incursion pilot that is fed up with ISN's griefing, and want to help fight against their fascist agenda, there are quite a few things you can do:

1 - Infiltration and Sabotage as logistics. The most effective method is to infiltrate an ISN fleet with logistics and join me in sabotaging ISN's fleets by withholding or simply being a bit slow on shield repairs/capacitor requests. If you have already flown in ISN with logistics, and are tired of their new "direction", you are in a unique position to do something about it.

2 - Infiltration and Sabotage as DPS. Only fly DPS? Join an ISN fleet and subtly sabotage their efforts to run sites. Disconnecting, "forgetting" to get ammo, trolling comms, getting hung up on gates, shooting the wrong tags, "forgetting" to assign drones properly, asking for AFK time, etc. can all be done subtly enough to not raise suspicion while being very frustrating to their FCs.

3 - Wardecs. Got an anonymous alt and tons of incursion ISK you're not doing anything with? Get corporate management to 1 in a few minutes, start a corp, and place a wardec on an ISN griefer. This can cost as little as 50 mil. ISK. Look for targets that have been in a corporation with more than a few members for a good amount of time. This forces them to either drop a corp they enjoy being a member of, or spreading war aggression among ISN logis when they run sites. Get the alt in system when you see the decced ISN member so they must continually be on the lookout. If it is an alt with some PVP skills, you may be able to catch a logi with aggro at a gate or station after completing a site.

4 - Gank their OGB. You can hire mercs for this or scan their booster down, find a friend, and do the deed yourselves with only a couple of tier 3 BCs. Don't forget to bring a low-skill thrasher too and get their pod.

5 - Hunt their pods. A low-skill neutral alt in a thrasher or catalyst outside of the station ISN is staging from can often times find a juicy ISN pod undocking and pop it before they (or CONCORD) can react.

6 - Recruit from ISN Secondary. Put one toon in their channel, and recruit with a second toon. When you see someone new, be sure to let them know about your favorite incursion channel and tell them about what ISN has been doing. Are they having trouble getting into an ISN fleet because it is too restrictive or simply not running? I bet you know a place where they can find a fleet.

These are just a few ways you can help in the effort to fight back against ISN's griefing. I am sure that you can think of other ways become involved in this fight and take an active role in removing the cancerous mass that ISN's leadership has become. My goal is the harmonious cooperation of all incursion groups that we had before, with a fun sense of competition. But until ISN's leadership understands that cooperation is the only way to be successful, they will continue to grief and harass all other incursion groups. YOU are capable of causing change and influencing this struggle.

Any pilots wishing to coordinate efforts or donate resources that will be used against ISN are welcome to contact this character via Evemail. Any useful intel, known ISN officer alts, fleet chat logs, FRAPS of counter-ISN ops, are also very welcome. All submissions will remain completely anonymous unless otherwise specified. Videos and screen shots will be scrubbed of all identifying information before release.