Science & Industry

Removing them without fixing the -4/-4 normal invention doesn't fix the problem. You will just drive cost up on everyone, minus the Alliances and they how corner certain markets. CCP would have to make invent BPC's somehow researchable, and that would have to be able to done by anyone and any security system.

Pick which side of the coin you want? Alliances running BPO's or running invention folks to the rules they make.

They have the capital to screw either side of the coin. CCP will not remove that...

Horrible ROI for new players. Astronomical ROI for players who were gifted them. Can you please stop making out that T2BPO's somehow cost their owners massive amounts of effort or isk as it's simply not the case. If it did take massive amounts of effort or ISK then T2BPO would not be a problem. Unfortunately T2BPO is a problem and a huge flaw in EVE that needs solved if the game is to grow.

You still clearly don't understand the concept of opportunity cost. Nor the concept of a time value of money.

Unless you are claiming that T2 BPO owners have access to time machines, the value of the BPO today and the value of the BPO 5 years ago are not interchangeable.

And getting yourself in a position where winning the lottery with a worthwhile BPO was at all likely was a pretty monumental effort at the time.

Again you claim that the game won't grow due to T2 BPOs. That's demonstrably false. The current subcount is roughly double what it was when the lottery ended 5 years ago.

And everyone also knows that some parts of the lottery was fixed which means some person where gifted with t2 bpos. Most of them where in BoB back then which was the power house of that era in eve.

Got any evidence that any BPOs that were unfairly given out are still in the game?

The BPOs involved in the T20 mess were removed more than 5 years ago.

What does WWII tank has to do with EVE?

And no, lottery hasn't changed in last 5 years.

It's a change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery

There's a lot of really useful information in this thread, but there's also a lot of misinformation and trolling going on.

I'd prefer not to go through 52 pages and remove every single troll post and I'd rather not press that lock button, so please try to keep it civil and on track from here on. Also, I removed some personal attacks and spam posts which I'm sure were purely accidental.

I cant remember this thread ever beeing locked tbh, but maybe it got locked because it had a equally low discussion-quality as this thread has aswell? If CCP or in this case the ISDs are trying to hide something wich you are accusing them, why wouldnt they just forum-ban you and delete this and all upcoming threads? not the worst idea, if you ask me.

It's worth mentioning every single time it is mentioned just so that no one never forgets that someone in CCP *****d *p real bad. And what proof do YOU have that all of those prints where removed? none.

And it's wroth mentioning cause thats the time when people got the things so it's revelant and funny that things that happened 5 years back have still and effect to the game and it's players.

And no I do not have solutions to it. Neither do you. Only thing I have are my opinions which from your point of view sucks and your solutions form my point of view sucks, so no point talking about those.

So mayby something needs to be done about this so the topic would go away once and for all. I'll settle on what ever CCP says as long as they address the matter in some way. And not saying anything is not an answer.