EVE General Discussion

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1. Nothing drops from 'special' cargo bays. Code needs badly to be updated, just like the Orca Corp Hangar.
But.....CCP tends to be lazy about fixing stuff that benefits 'the wrong customers'. You know, the people the game was originally marketed for......

2. Tanking is something you can do by yourself, so being alone is hardly an issue.

Being AFK, however - IS an issue.
Certainly not something that CCP should be actively encouraging through lazy or indulgent ship design.

Yet it is exactly this style of play that miners are defending most vigorously.....

A Tanked Hulk pre-patch could not be profitably ganked. How is that too weak?

So, if I were to check your posting history, I'd see your posts telling the miners to adapt or die when suicide ganking became popular?

I tank my Exhumers, or back to rule number 1, mine in a BS

I am sure I did, I don't take sides in the fights. I mine, cause I like it. Call me crazy !

If you can't adapt from each change, just unsub. Don't come here and whine like James/Heir cause your type of gameplay is ruined, if you want to call it that. You can gank a lot easier in other games (WoW anyone....)

You point out "rule number 1" for a miner. Problem is lots of miners don't want to "adapt" by mining slower rates than a hulk.
Thats their problem, not mine. I learned to mine in cruiser, and mined more BS's than I can count in a BS. Not to mention serveral freighters.

As far as your point on Crimewatch, Yes, they will have to adapt again if they want to continue with easy kills and easy profit. Is it becoming WoW in space, back to my other points in another thread, show up at the next event, and ask them yourself. This going back and forth is complete waste of time. Threads like this should be locked with the following:

"CCP DEV, please ask us at our next event" - Your wasting internet bits

So much stupid. So many failed spellings.
Yeah, Herr Wilkus only posted on this thread about, oh 50 times.
I'm pretty confident that 'posting with his main' isn't a big problem for him.

Now, Krixtal Icefluxor on the other hand.....THERE is someone that should have def used a posting alt.


And I tend to frequent ice belts and ice systems, so yes, I generally see plenty of totally AFK mining, yes.

And if you have to manually retarget asteroids every cycle - it just means you need to get out of 1.0 systems once in awhile. Trust me, they get bigger outside of starter systems.

1. Ok, true... I honestly didn't think about that. BUT, T2 ships are more often then not fitted with T2 modules... also expensive.

2. Beeing alone is not an issue, it is a vulnerability. Giving the most feasable highsec solo miner ship the lowest EHP, does only one thing... it invites a revival of "Hulkageddon". The Mack is the #1 exhumer for high sec solo miners now.

As was stated, a real miner is hardly ever AFK for a long time. The cycles aren't that long, and even if you are not activly watching your ship (it can be quite boring, you know) you atleast are listening to what's going on. I, personally, alt-tab much doing something else (work, etc.) while having the sound in background.

I think what you call "long time AFK miners" are really bots... but, countering them is not an issue of game meahanics, it's an issue for CCP to handle!

1. If a miner is atk and paying attention, they don't need any tank to survive suicide ganking. Why should you be almost perfectly safe while you're in space, in an exhumer not designed to be the safe one, and not at the keyboard?

2. The time between needing to be at the keyboard for an AFK fit Mackinaw is about 45 minutes. Ice roids don't deplete.

Haha..but apparenlty miner tears aren't on the menu today.