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Denuo Secus
#1 - 2011-10-12 02:48:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Denuo Secus
Hi all,

could someone enlighten me, why is the Revelation considered as the best dread? In most dread discussions I ever read this dread comes first. But why? Is it only because this dread is more lag proof because of no reloading? Or is there more?

- Common use of armor tanking does no help here because it can't be repped in siege
- No scorch! Amarr's great damage projection does not work here
- Lasers use cap. I hear when under attack a Rev must switch off its lasers to reserve cap for repping (when is a dread not under attack?)

So, what did I miss? Thanks for any hint!
Songbird
#2 - 2011-10-12 02:54:21 UTC
it's shiny !!!
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-12 02:58:06 UTC
2 things about the Rev make it good: no ammo needed, and good in lag.

Since Ammo for other dreads is accommodated by larger cargo bays, it's not a big advantage, but it is still an advantage. And no amo means in extended lag situations it just keeps firing. But since lag has been worked on a lot lately...

Moros or the Nag is best, probably Moros for its training time vs the nag

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Deacon Nolan
Rapid Insertion Systems
#4 - 2011-10-12 02:58:31 UTC
You don't have to reload it during POS shoots Lol
Goose99
#5 - 2011-10-12 03:03:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Goose99
Deacon Nolan wrote:
You don't have to reload it during POS shoots Lol


^This - the only usage dreads see those days.

No reloading doesn't actually help in real laggage... They stop cycling/shooting just like the rest, even as the circle continues to go around client side.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2011-10-12 03:03:38 UTC
I think the two main reasons are armor use (which is the most common type for large fleets) and not having to worry about ammo (for instance, a Moros can burn over 1700m3 of ammo every hour, but it only has a 500m3 cargohold). Especially for POS bashing, which is the main use for Dreads, this is a big factor.

Also, bear in mind the competition. There's the Phoenix with missiles, the Nag with the typically less than stellar Min caps, and the Moros with hybrids (though 'till the Winter patch the Moros is the only one that can do PvE decently well, due to its drone bay and bonus).
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-12 03:10:22 UTC
Deacon Nolan wrote:
You don't have to reload it during POS shoots Lol

This is the only thing that matters at all. You can go AFK on a POS shot without being called out for not firing and then called primary.

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Yazatas.
#8 - 2011-10-14 16:44:47 UTC
The moros might get ahead with the cap ship changes and the buff to hybrids (provided they reach capital level).


As for the rev, well two reasons: Armor EHP(although it's irrelevant now with supers) and Lasers needing no reloading.

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Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-15 02:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
Denuo Secus wrote:

- Lasers use cap. I hear when under attack a Rev must switch off its lasers to reserve cap for repping (when is a dread not under attack?)


They also stop shooting to be at jump cap when coming out of siege. Seriously goddamned annoying when rev (and moros) stops firing on a dickstar with maybe 10% left to go and "let the subcaps handle it." Luckily there were usually a few GLORIOUS SPACE HEROES in Phoenixes and Nags
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-10-15 03:52:16 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
"let the subcaps handle it."


haha you shoot poses with subcaps

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Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-10-15 04:53:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
Mfume Apocal wrote:
"let the subcaps handle it."


haha you shoot poses with subcaps


it wasnt any poses, it was dickstars too. and the reason we did it is because the fc at the time was a massively bitter ****** from 2003 who didnt know that sov was no longer determined by pos