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To boldly go... EVE vs Real Life: What will space look like if we head out to deeper waters?

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-09-03 16:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Abel Merkabah wrote:
What if we are the most advanced civilization in the universe? I mean someone has to be first, why not us. Maybe we will be the Jovians to other species on different planets.
I've wondered about that too, thing is when I look at our place in the Milky Way, how we're stuck way out on the edge of a single spiral arm among many other arms circling a nice and dense galactic center that looks lit up like New York City, I can't help but feel like we're out in the preverbial boondocks and that in that bright middle area theirs an abundance of life that has existed and evolved for far longer than we, not to mention all the other spiraling arms, and countless other galaxies as well.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2012-09-03 17:42:09 UTC
Science fiction covers several possibilities involving interstellar travel, at our current technology/theoretical level the only viable one would be generation ships, sometimes called interstellar arks. Obviously we don't have viable cryogenics or propulsion systems available, but the theory is there.

In science fiction there would be rotating crew patterns with some awake, some in stasis, in reality a ship would have to be crewed by multiple generations of crew drawn from the offspring of the original crew, a journey to another galaxy will take hundreds if not thousands of years.

If and when we expand into the universe you can pretty much guarantee we're going to aggressive as hell with it, it's just the way we're wired. The older a colony the more civilised it will be, the newer colonies would be somewhat akin to the wild west, even in the rare circumstance that we find we're alone.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#23 - 2012-09-03 20:05:53 UTC
Yes

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Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#24 - 2012-09-03 20:16:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jax Bederen
Paul Oliver wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
What if we are the most advanced civilization in the universe? I mean someone has to be first, why not us. Maybe we will be the Jovians to other species on different planets.
I've wondered about that too, thing is when I look at our place in the Milky Way, how we're stuck way out on the edge of a single spiral arm among many other arms circling a nice and dense galactic center that looks lit up like New York City, I can't help but feel like we're out in the preverbial boondocks and that in that bright middle area theirs an abundance of life that has existed and evolved for far longer than we, not to mention all the other spiraling arms, and countless other galaxies as well.


Yea, we very well might be the red necks of the Universe in the middle of nowhere. There are galaxies billions years older that likely developed life. Life that would look at us as ants building their ant hills(skyscrapers). Really I dont even think they would bother with us, they would be incomprehensible to us with motivations and concepts outside of our scope of perception. Even if we colonized other planets it would look like ants crossing a river while biting each other over the dead grasshopper.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#25 - 2012-09-03 20:17:37 UTC
Considering how most of the human population doesn't care at all for space exploration, we're not going anywhere soon.
Space is expensive

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TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#26 - 2012-09-03 20:20:45 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Considering how most of the human population doesn't care at all for space exploration, we're not going anywhere soon.
Space is expensive


I care Sad

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-09-03 20:22:30 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Considering how most of the human population doesn't care at all for space exploration, we're not going anywhere soon.
Space is expensive


I care Sad

Me too, but sometimes it depresses me that I care because in caring I come to realize just how much of a prisoner I am on this planet. Ugh
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#28 - 2012-09-03 20:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jax Bederen
Paul Oliver wrote:
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Considering how most of the human population doesn't care at all for space exploration, we're not going anywhere soon.
Space is expensive


I care Sad

Me too, but sometimes it depresses me that I care because in caring I come to realize just how much of a prisoner I am on this planet. Ugh


I get the feeling, billions of galaxies with billions of stars and you turn on the tv and watch something equivalent to an elementary school playground fight.

You might like this video btw, I would also recommend you subscribe to this guy, he works in the astronomy field and does a weekly "space fan news" on he's channel.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#29 - 2012-09-03 20:43:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Tekniq wrote:
Master Tarn wrote:
if we... lets say, in 50 years have started colonizing space.



its not cost effective and will never happen. the great times of spaceflights are over

we now can send cheap drones / robots, or just build some telescopes into space. but humans flying to space will get to zero soon.
Completely agree, certainly not 50 years. I do think the Chinese will go to the moon though (w/o the US), set up mining operations for helium-3 while the US is still sending probes to Mars to no end.
50 years? The moon will probably be popped out of orbit by then. Fairwell moonbase Alpha.

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Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#30 - 2012-09-03 21:39:32 UTC
Soi Mala wrote:
Well, we already litter in space. Earths orbit is chock full of rocket bodies and other space junk. There were concerns over curiosities nuclear fuel cells - if there were an accident mars would be showered in radioactive material - but we went ahead and did it anyway... I get the feeling we'l care even less for other worlds than we do for our own. Humans suck tbh.




The earths Orbit is NOT full of Garbage.Space is huge and we aren not even close of filling it up.The problem si that every piece of metal larger than 1 cm can be devastating when its flying with great speed orbiting.Due to inefficient mechanical parts/lack of good design during the Space Race, there are lots of them up there that might be lethal for our crude spaceships if they hit.

About the Curiocity:
Yes, adding some more radiation on the off chance that Curiocity explodes for no reason at all, on a heavily UV and Radiation saturated wasteland is bad ,suuuure......
Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
#31 - 2012-09-03 21:45:21 UTC
If you want to get into that, there's always the possibility that in 50 years the singularity will have occurred as computers become capable of making better and better versions of themselvses, humanity will have merged with the AI's that are created and have set out to turn the universe into one giant supercomputer.

Sounds ridiculous but there are more than a few futurists out there that think it's a likely series of events

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terzslave
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-09-03 21:51:56 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Considering how most of the human population doesn't care at all for space exploration, we're not going anywhere soon.
Space is expensive


Think about all them space rocks we gonna mine once we get up there.........$$/hr
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2012-09-03 21:57:40 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:


You might like this video btw, I would also recommend you subscribe to this guy, he works in the astronomy field and does a weekly "space fan news" on he's channel.



I watch the sky at night. Its a monthy BBC show that gives the lowdown on all thats happened in the last month and what you can see in the month to come. Its being going since 1957 and the presenter always wears a monocle.
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#34 - 2012-09-03 23:19:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jax Bederen wrote:


You might like this video btw, I would also recommend you subscribe to this guy, he works in the astronomy field and does a weekly "space fan news" on he's channel.



I watch the sky at night. Its a monthy BBC show that gives the lowdown on all thats happened in the last month and what you can see in the month to come. Its being going since 1957 and the presenter always wears a monocle.


Classic, the man does have a monocle. Going to look up their schedule, might have to go to a couple shady sites to find the feed, thanks.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#35 - 2012-09-03 23:51:41 UTC
Caelis Boirelle wrote:
If you want to get into that, there's always the possibility that in 50 years the singularity will have occurred as computers become capable of making better and better versions of themselvses, humanity will have merged with the AI's that are created and have set out to turn the universe into one giant supercomputer.

Sounds ridiculous but there are more than a few futurists out there that think it's a likely series of events


Of course they would still be incapable of generating a true random number ...maybe apart from hooking up a radioactive geiger counter to the system, in which case the system would probably find it logical to launch every nuclear warhead to experiment with greater ranges. Hello, Dave. You're looking well today. (O)

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-09-03 23:57:46 UTC
Thread moved from GD to OOPE - ISD Type40.


I for one look forward to the day we spread our metaphorical wings and start spreading through the Galaxy. Not sure how the Galaxy might feel about that prospect however.

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-09-04 00:03:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Caelis Boirelle wrote:
...there's always the possibility that in 50 years the singularity will have occurred as computers become capable of making better and better versions of themselvses, humanity will have merged with the AI's that are created and have set out to turn the universe into one giant supercomputer.

Can't imagine anything going wrong with a technological singularity. P
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Jonny Lumi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-09-04 00:12:22 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Of course they would still be incapable of generating a true random number ...


I've been thinking that if the current science and knowledge of the universe is all mathematics in the end, the term "Random" is actually impossible. Since everything can be calculated if enough information is given.

Then again, much of the calculations are only approximations, but that can be explained as just not having enough information just now.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#39 - 2012-09-04 00:14:55 UTC
Jonny Lumi wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Of course they would still be incapable of generating a true random number ...


I've been thinking that if the current science and knowledge of the universe is all mathematics in the end, the term "Random" is actually impossible. Since everything can be calculated if enough information is given.

Then again, much of the calculations are only approximations, but that can be explained as just not having enough information just now.

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Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-09-04 00:19:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Webvan wrote:
Jonny Lumi wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Of course they would still be incapable of generating a true random number ...


I've been thinking that if the current science and knowledge of the universe is all mathematics in the end, the term "Random" is actually impossible. Since everything can be calculated if enough information is given.

Then again, much of the calculations are only approximations, but that can be explained as just not having enough information just now.

7 99 16 378 3745 0 00 001 676

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Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).