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T2BPO why they should be removed and how.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#941 - 2012-09-03 13:00:48 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Funny because I pay for 3 plex + profit doing invention. Too bad you can't figure it out. Maybe all the tears in your eyes are giving you problems seeing?


We aren't talking about T3s and wormholes here.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#942 - 2012-09-03 13:04:08 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Kara Books wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Oh look. He's back.

And still with no new arguments to patch the holes that've been ripped out of his original ones.


I like your post, and the previous 2 posts you have up there as you read up


I'm not sure what you're saying, but seeding new T2 BPOs will simply kill the market for invention, as described in detail earlier in the thread.

The idea to seed them in LS is novel on its face, but all you need to do is JF in, buy the BPO, then jump to a exit system where your Orca is ready. No fighting (except for the guys sitting on the undock to blap cyno ships) involved. So it's really no more risky than any LS logistics. Which means the proposal is the same as Brewlar's "T2 BPOs are unfair because they're expensive, so CCP should give me one seed them."


Perhaps, this is very true, the richest would buy out the blueprints and compete with each other on easy level, naturally crashing the prices on inventors at will.

then back to invention, it is.
allowing newer players to do their thing, selling off excess goods.
older players can do their thing with or without T2 BPO's

Still would be interesting to see low-sec have a nice wave of Violence take grip.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#943 - 2012-09-03 14:00:15 UTC
A fantastic nerf to t2bpo's would be to only allow them to manufacture in low sec, null and wh and from inside a pos and not remotely from a station. This would see some great conflicts emerge with real goals and points to the fighting. As it stands a good T2BPO was a 5bn isk a month gift from CCP that required no effort other than being cushy with the devs.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#944 - 2012-09-03 14:41:01 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
Funny because I pay for 3 plex + profit doing invention. Too bad you can't figure it out. Maybe all the tears in your eyes are giving you problems seeing?


We aren't talking about T3s and wormholes here.

I don't see anywhere in my post that says anything about T3s or wormholes. Man, those tears are really messing up your sight.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#945 - 2012-09-03 15:24:06 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Man, those tears are really messing up your sight.


So, you own T2 BPOs.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#946 - 2012-09-03 15:46:18 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:

I posted for the bitter vets and the Devs of CCP
But they would not post back and they wouldn't follow me
I posted for the noobs and for the good Kugu
They came with me and the thread went on:

Post, post, wherever you may be
I am the lord of the T2BPO whine thread, said he
And I lead you all, wherever you may be
And I lead you all in the thread, said he
.


hahaha...yea I see how Kugu is supporting your campaign
brewlar`s Kugu thread

so good!

shar'ra phone home
Pipa Porto
#947 - 2012-09-03 15:47:14 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
I'm not sure what you're saying, but seeding new T2 BPOs will simply kill the market for invention


T2 BPO owners killed invention years ago.



Stop lying, Jorma. We've repeatedly explained to you exactly how Invention is quite profitable for the vast majority of T2 markets.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#948 - 2012-09-03 15:54:42 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Stop lying, Jorma. We've repeatedly explained to you exactly how Invention is quite profitable for the vast majority of T2 markets.


T2 BPO owners set the prices. For example Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#949 - 2012-09-03 16:07:06 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Stop lying, Jorma. We've repeatedly explained to you exactly how Invention is quite profitable for the vast majority of T2 markets.


T2 BPO owners set the prices. For example Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II.


you're a damn funny guy

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#950 - 2012-09-03 16:10:00 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
Man, those tears are really messing up your sight.


So, you own T2 BPOs.

LOL again...never said anything about owning a T2 BPO....I said "invention". Might want to get your tear ducts checked out.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#951 - 2012-09-03 16:13:06 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Might want to get your tear ducts checked out.


Because you keep mentioning tears, you seem to like those T2 BPOs.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#952 - 2012-09-03 16:14:19 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Stop lying, Jorma. We've repeatedly explained to you exactly how Invention is quite profitable for the vast majority of T2 markets.


T2 BPO owners set the prices. For example Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II.

Except it's profitable with 2 different decryptors.

Also, you ever hear of anyone finding T2 Rig BPC's when doing mag sites? I do. Maybe that has an effect too? Perhaps?

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#953 - 2012-09-03 16:15:01 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
Might want to get your tear ducts checked out.


Because you keep mentioning tears, you seem to like those T2 BPOs.

OK moron, stop trolling.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#954 - 2012-09-03 16:32:37 UTC
If there's no profit to be made from BPOs then there's no reason to keep them in game.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#955 - 2012-09-03 16:35:30 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
If there's no profit to be made from BPOs then there's no reason to keep them in game.

but they do make a little profit, wich means they belong in the game according to this rule

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#956 - 2012-09-03 16:42:48 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
but they do make a little profit, wich means they belong in the game according to this rule


That's only the first month. After the first month you can make billions.

If it's only small profit then it's exactly like T1 BPOs. Why not give a option to get T2 BPOs from NPCs just like it is with T1 BPOs?
Skeenal Raholan
Doomheim
#957 - 2012-09-03 16:53:36 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
I'm not sure what you're saying, but seeding new T2 BPOs will simply kill the market for invention


T2 BPO owners killed invention years ago.


I make quite a bit more then 4 bil a month doing invention (i have no pot in this remove T2 BPO whine fest). If you can't make more inventing off a t1 bp, then someone with a t2 bpo, you are doing it wrong, they have a limited number of runs they can make!
Quit your bitching, adapt and overcome.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#958 - 2012-09-03 17:00:33 UTC
Skeenal Raholan wrote:
they have a limited number of runs they can make!


I've heard that copying T2 BPO is possible...
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#959 - 2012-09-03 17:01:58 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Skeenal Raholan wrote:
they have a limited number of runs they can make!


I've heard that copying T2 BPO is possible...

Oh come on. We've been over this. Copies take longer to make than production. You are TROLLING.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#960 - 2012-09-03 17:04:00 UTC
Zifrian wrote:
Oh come on. We've been over this. Copies take longer to make than production.


Copying T2 BPO takes less time than inventing. And that's main point.