Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I fully agree.

How about add more than one acceleration gate per plex with different warp in?

I think they should ewar neutrals.

Most probably in a deep safe somewhere or PoS, just like they are currently. Why would that change?

I, too, am concrerned about some of these changes.

I don't want to see the end of the Unrestricted Major. I faffed about and missed a fight with carriers last night, on a gate. It was ~40 Amarrwith 2 caps vs 15-20 AHACs from Minmatar, and all agreed it was a great 30 minute brawl; everyone won though some lost their rides. MOAR PLOCKS.

It is rare enough that FW guys use the big toys, so getting rid of the Unrestricted sites will discourage risky cap drops more than they happen today (ie; rarely). It is also the only place you can light a cyno; which is ergo the only place one can drop BLOPs gangs in FW. Again, it's risky toy usage, and should be encouraged.

Secondly, the move of the capture button (which I suggested, with others). I am 20% agreeing with Cearain, 80% disagreeing. Right now, he gets to be lazy on the d-scan while orbiting button because 90km in a complex of any kind equals an ability to be risk averse or be a horrible farming alt. Either you avoid the fight because of blob (or, you know, use d-scan; no excuses here Cearain) or you bug out because you are a farmer. Hell, I can and do masturbate to redtube with EVE windowed down to the overview tab ONLY and if I see flashy orange I drop what I'm doing (so to speak), take the splash guard off my keyboard, and click warp to station/safe and then keep watching Assmunchers XXV - The Return of Buttcake. Moving the capture button closer will discourage such tawdry behaviour, and incidentally, increase the thrill of ****-plexing.

However, I'm not sure that 20km is an appropriate distance, given,
a) the proliferation of off-grid booster Lokis = instapoint on anyone within 34-40km of warpin. This includes a button 20km off the entry with a 20km radius and the WT at the far side and an overheated T2 dissy with Loki links on it. Which is basically got to be the standard threat you deal with. Ergo, the likelihood of being pointed the second someone drops on grid with a 20km button range is close to 100%.
b) Dropping my johnson, cleaning the hand lotion off, and picking up my mouse takes at least 5 seconds. This indicates that you need another 10km at least, so I'll only really die to ceptors if I'm not on d-scan.

I think something like a 30km from warp-in, 20km radius capture beacon gives people an opportunity to ****-plex, or even actually do it for serious, with an ability to not get pointed 100% of the time by a well prepared blob who sends in a ship with loki-boosted T2 point. At 30km, you'd have to be a dullard unaware of d-scan (or Cearain) to fall victim. Or a sodding great wanker like me.

Thirdly, I am also concerned about the role of T1 cruisers in the proposed tiers of FW complexes. I'm not going all Chicken Little about it like others, because I at least can use d-scan and hence pick my fights while rolling my Nanocose or Nanoscythe (yeah, lol). But you WILL have, as stated, 2 vigilants/Deimos and 3 guardians with off-grid Legion boosts roflstomping everything, forever, on warp-in. At least the Deimos' won't be able to escape being pointed by the gang trying to bumrush them.

As for the changes to the rats, I approve. This will basically stop the farmer alts of offensive plexers doing it AFK. You'll still be able to farm smalls and maybe mediums in a T1 frig/dessie (loki boosted twin rep incursus, I figure, would be enough to toss over medium rats) and people will up the ante with the medium and large plexes with new and innovative ways to farm them....but requiring the rats to be dead will at least force people to not AFK it.

Defensive plexes, yeah they will be done by the alts. But so what? The way it will work is that, since you get LP's by defensively deplexing systems which your enemy contests, it is therefore in your interests to let your enemies contest your systems, and then decontest them. This will benefit both sides' Farmville Committees and, really, you should get organised on this with a rota and schedule and gentlemanly agreements.

It will also, incidentally, benefit the PVPers of both sides, as we get to hunt people who offensively plex our space, and we get to defensively plex for ISK if we feel like it, and we get to go offensively plex the other guy's space while looking for fights. It will be just like now except everyone coming to your space looking for income will have to risk more than a MSE-MASB Merlin with stabs. It will at least have to have some guns on it to clear the rats off.

Finally, I am confused by the way the rats will spawn. I take it there will be three to five on warp-in, and when you kill one a new one spawns, until the reservoir of rats is depleted, then no more spawn. This would then maintain 3-5 rats on field at all times but prevent pile-ups. Correct?

I don't think t2 cruisers should get into a plex BC's can't get into

The power difference between t1 cruisers and t2 cruisers is enormous.

I'd say T1 for the mediums.

I do not like the change - T1 Destroyers will have no use at all and this will take a fun, cheap ship type out of action.
Harpys will be everywhere.

Many of the ideas suggested here sound good to me...in theory. I have not ventured into FW so I can not make an informed suggestion, however the reason I have not joined FW is the reason for my post. It is because FW is limited to certain areas that many like me may refrain from joining FW. I like where I am based out of, and I also want to venture into null space. The null space nearby is NPC owned. You should be able to get a hint for where I am going with my suggestion.

Proposal : Take FW into NPC owned null-space.

I know that corps, alliances, individuals do not need to be at war to fight in null. However, they is no real way to lay claim to a pocket of space in NPC null besides blockading gates. This seems very limiting to me, lets go camp on a gate and wait. Sometime the fishing is good, sometimes not. But, what if you were to bring FW into the picture. The features in FW give a form of sovereignty control in the NPC space.

- Station access denied
- warzone control
- and space upgrading

These are all features that make non-NPC space able to be occupied.

Expand FW into NPC null-space and you will not only get more people to join FW, but also more sovereignty like action in the regions.

Not empty quoting to highlight this issue I didn't think of.

70+ km as it is now may be too much distance, but on the flip side Cerain is right that 10km would be ridiculous. And yes dscan mashing is one of the most ******** requirements in the game atm. One of the reasons I won't bother with wormholes even though on the whole they are attractive.

So there has to be some distance between 70 and 10 that would present some danger for inattention while at the same time not make the person in the plex instant gank meat for the attacker(s). Oh look, 40km, a midpoint between those two values. So If one wants one could mash the dscan or one could just pay attention and be quick on the fight or flight response. And on the flip side the attacker needs some fast tackle to enter, some of which he might lose in order to get that tackle. Seems like a decent solution.

40km