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Making the galaxy alive
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Nea Star
Scream and Ignite
#1 - 2012-08-31 21:47:04 UTC
So here's the deal.

The introduction of new nebulaes gave us some stunning backgrounds and a much needed graphical boost to the game. However, with all the beautiful new artwork, background in EVE's systems still feels static and wallpapery.

Fairly easy solution to that staticness(not sure if so, from technical perspective), would be making some of the stars to twinkle and pulsate.

Maybe even script in a random comet, asteroid or a falling star in the background every now and then. Something to give the universe that realistic feel.

IMO these kind of details that make the background more alive, would add a great deal of immersion to EVE.

What do you think?
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-08-31 23:27:46 UTC
True... In Real Life some of them Pulsate....

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#3 - 2012-08-31 23:32:34 UTC
Nea Star wrote:
Maybe even script in a random comet, asteroid or a falling star in the background every now and then. Something to give the universe that realistic feel.


There was talk about comet mining in the dark distant past. I wonder if CCP could include comet mining in their ring mining feature addition?

I'd love to see most static belts removed and switched to grav sites with comets replacing ice belts. No longer would you stay in Brapelille mining ice all your days: you'd have to move around and look for a new comet. Heck, miners might even establish a community based on locating and exploiting these resources as efficiently as possible. We already have constellation intel channels, there's no reason we wouldn't stretch a little further to coordinate comet hunting expeditions with the people we like.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#4 - 2012-08-31 23:33:36 UTC
Alx Warlord wrote:
True... In Real Life some of them Pulsate....


Variable stars would be cool :)

It would be awesome to have k-space systems with similar effects to w-space systems such as magnetars, quasars, black holes and cataclysmic variables. Just to give k-space dwellers a taste of something different.

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Nea Star
Scream and Ignite
#5 - 2012-09-01 10:49:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nea Star
Mara Rinn wrote:
Alx Warlord wrote:
True... In Real Life some of them Pulsate....


Variable stars would be cool :)

It would be awesome to have k-space systems with similar effects to w-space systems such as magnetars, quasars, black holes and cataclysmic variables. Just to give k-space dwellers a taste of something different.


As it might be cool..I was more referring to all those white dots representing distant stars in the background. Making some of them pulsate, twinkle or some additional effects, would IMO make the background feel alive, instead of the static wallpaper we have now!
Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2012-09-01 11:12:21 UTC
Nea Star wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Alx Warlord wrote:
True... In Real Life some of them Pulsate....


Variable stars would be cool :)

It would be awesome to have k-space systems with similar effects to w-space systems such as magnetars, quasars, black holes and cataclysmic variables. Just to give k-space dwellers a taste of something different.


As it might be cool..I was more referring to all those white dots representing distant stars in the background. Making some of them pulsate, twinkle or some additional effects, would IMO make the background feel alive, instead of the static wallpaper we have now!



The reason stars twinkle at the bottom of this wonderful little gravity well we're trapped on (f. you nasa and other gov't space programs) is because of the atmosphere. *IN GENERAL* once you get out of the atmosphere, there's nothing to make the stars "twinkle".

now, if the systems that you couldn't get the nebula out of the background (or barely could) had the nebulae do something like that ... it could add some variety.

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Faith Audene
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-09-01 16:55:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Faith Audene
Alx Warlord wrote:
True... In Real Life some of them Pulsate....


Considering there isn't a signle dual star systems in EVE, albeit they are slightly the majority in our real universe, and dual star is what makes them pulsating, why should they be on the background if you cant travel any?

BTW: Dual star systems very seldomly have planets.

BBTW: Our solarsystem might have become one too, if Jupiter would have gained more mass, it would have started burning also, but it it didn't, luckily for us.

BBBTW: The flickering we see on our sky is soley made by our atmosphere.
Adam Junior
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-09-01 16:59:44 UTC
Faith Audene wrote:
Alx Warlord wrote:
True... In Real Life some of them Pulsate....


Considering there isn't a signle dual star systems in EVE, albeit they are slightly the majority in our real universe, and dual star is what makes them pulsating, why should they be on the background if you cant travel any?

BTW: Dual star systems very seldomly have planets.

BBTW: Our solarsystem might have become one too, if Jupiter would have gained more mass, it would have started burning also, but it it didn't, luckily for us.

BBBTW: The flickering we see on our sky is soley made by our atmosphere.


I thought every system in K-Space was binary, because they need to be to use stargates.
Alara IonStorm
#9 - 2012-09-01 17:23:37 UTC
Another thing that would make the galaxy alive.

From another thread.

Alara IonStorm wrote:
I have noticed something about the EVE Universe. Outside of Police, the occasional Trader and Pirates flying around in Paper thin Ships dying by the trillion(They are terrible), there is very little life in space.

CCP has created a ton of great ships that we never see in Non-Capsuleer hands running around. Outside of Security Forces and Pirates 99% of the Ships I see are Capsuleer owned. For the amount of ships you have in one large Lvl 4 Mission you can make any Solar System a wash with life.

* NPC Shuttles moving between gates and stations.
* Opux Luxury Yachts touring systems. (Would make for good Low Sec Pirate PvE)
* NPC Freighters Flying Between Gates.
* NPC Primae's hanging around Planets.
* NPC Mining Barges and maybe Orca's doing Mining OP's.
* Noctus's in those Battle Site Wreck Fields.
* Generally increase the amount of Haulers currently and make them fly between gates.
* Sailboats touring around. Like a Zephyr with a new civilian paint scheme.

EVE feels so empty like we are the only ones out there. It would be cool to see it bustling with life.

Imagine warping towards a Station seeing Shuttle, Solar Sailing Ship and Yachts coming and going from all sorts different NPC Corps taking people to the Stars and back. To see massive Freighters flowing like the life blood of the Galaxy bringing food, fuel, construction materials and wares from every corner of the Galaxy to the people below. Primae's bring goods from Planets to the stations. Mining Ships tearing away in Belts to build the massive Empires.

I am playing in a world of Navies and Pirates, Cops and Robbers. CCP wants a Sci Fi Simulator. A little background would go a long way to this. They have the ships, I say add them in.

Bring Life into the Orbit of Planets, to the City Sized Stations, to the Sprawling Asteroid Belts, to the Stargate Highways that connect us together and to EVE
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#10 - 2012-09-01 18:36:26 UTC
Velicitia wrote:

The reason stars twinkle at the bottom of this wonderful little gravity well we're trapped on (f. you nasa and other gov't space programs) is because of the atmosphere. *IN GENERAL* once you get out of the atmosphere, there's nothing to make the stars "twinkle".

You mean... The reason planes slow down in this wonderful little gravity well we're trapped on (f. you nasa and other gov't space programs) is because of the atmosphere. *IN GENERAL* once you get out of the atmosphere, there's nothing to make things decelerate.

You're right about stars not twinkling in space, of course (plus asteroid "streaks" don't appear for the same reason, and comets only have tails when really close to the sun, and they don't "streak" across the sky either). However, so few things make sense in Eve that using actual physical arguments doesn't really count for much.

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