Player Features and Ideas Discussion

nuff said.

played a game that was a tad like what the OP is talking about (called Independance war II) and good god was it ridiculously hard to land on grid with something manually.

as nestara said.. stop in warp maybe (as the end result is possible already with bookmarks, but with bubble mechanics and changeable tactical situations, it would take away from legit traps and fun moments where u grit ur teeth knowing the inevitable is about to happen and ur gonna be in a bit of a bind.

This is silly. Of course MWDs are meant for pvp. You run down your target and shut it off.

Also silly because a MWD doesn't allow you to cover distance at a rate anywhere close to what the warp drive allows. Its silly to think the MWD is meant solely make off grid bookmarks.

These features already exist in game.... moreless

1.) Dump your cap prior to warping to a destination.... When you don't have enough cap for the warp, you do a partial warp and will come out of warp several AU from your destination.... The more you practice with this maneuver, the closer you can get your destination without reaching it....

2.) You can warp to any distance between 0 and 100 km's by changing your default warp to distance to your desired distance, and then warp to your destination...

3.) You can warp to a bookmark.... If you want an offgrid spot near object, it takes prior planning. Simply get in a fast ship, power off grid (1-3k km's), and bookmark it.... Alternatively, warp to any object, log out... log in and immediately bookmark the spot... you'll be about 1m km's from the object... Note: It really helps if you have a naming scheme for your bookmarks....


Op, Not really....

If you made it so anyone could drop out of warp anytime they want, or if you made it so you could warp to a celestial at some random offgrid location, you will pretty much undermine one of the major uses of bubbles in nullsec. You don't deserve a "get-out-of-jail-free-card". Either you warp to gates with caution, Either you prepare ahead of time when traveling through an area, or you RISK losing your ships to a bubble trap, gate camp, or whatever.....

Finally, if you could initiate warp in any direction you chose, you'll run into major major problems with deep safes and the like.... For example... Any pilot could then just warp their ship off into space.... and leave it warping forever.... no one could catch it, because you couldn't pull it out of warp until it chose to be ready... Do this with your cyno ships, and you can suddenly have cyno locations that can't be reached in the 10 minutes it takes for the cyno to go down...

Prior to the release of dominion, there were several people that had broken safe spots, I think the farthest of which was 3,000+ au away from the edge of the solar system... CCP moved all safe spots to be within 20 au of the system edge, and has made it a point to remove most of the tricks and techniques for making deep safes.... They certainly aren't going to create this infinite warp bullshit.... Besides, the capacitor you use for entering warp is calculated based on your end point destination... they would have to do a serious redesign of warp mechanics to implement your warp-into-space mechanic!

Go wherever you want, I will catch you with combat probes and some friends in dictors.

Stopping warp I wish we had, but this treads on the effectiveness of Interceptors. If you can see the gate, station, or planet (don't warp to moon!) you can get ahead of them with the Interceptor. It takes some skill to do, and it less effective with warp-to-zero-and-jump, but it still works. If the Interceptor decides to go though the gate, they may catch them on the other side... which could also be a bad idea.

In any case, I am for it, but know it makes a person much harder to catch.

As for warp w/o direction, they are doing that. It's called a Micro Jump Drive and uses fuel and a new navigation skill.

Except the MJD isn't planned to let you jump off grid, only like 150km or something straight ahead...

The way I see it, the game is lacking in scope and the feeling of the immensity of space because we are not free to move about in space. We are only free to:

1. Warp to some location and able to land within 100km or less of it in a straight line.
2. Create BM's along straight lines that become locations that are warp able.
3. Move incredibly slowly (relatively speaking) in 3 dimensions freely.

This makes the incredibly large systems like Gultraten (over 100 AU across) which should be over 4.1 million cubic AU more like a couple dozen grid sized pockets (268,000,000 cubic KM)

So in percentage terms, first convert 4,100,000 cubic AU to cubic KM using this site which says that 1 cubic AU is equal to 0.0334x10^26 Km^3... which written out is
3,340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Cubic Kilometers..

Then take all the grids possible to warp onto, being generous call it 60, and multiply by the volume of each grid..

Divide one by the other
(60 x 268,000,000)/(4,100,000 x 3,340,000,000,000,000,000,000,0000)= 0.00000000000000000011%

So less than 2/10ths of 1 in a pentillion (1 million billion)... of one system....

Space is big, really big...

And because of the way CCP had to code Eve, we are not even coming close to scratching the surface of how big the game could truly be. And so any thing that opens up our ability to use more space and really get lost in it, is IMO a good thing.

TL:DR CCP, please give us more freedom to move in the universe...

I agree, that EvE uses a very small amount of the space available.... but so what... most of that space is empty, with nothing to do in it. If you want to experience all that emptiness, get in a fast frigate and just try to manually fly the ship from planet 1 to planet 2..... I'm sure the enormous amount of time it takes you to visit every grid in between is worth it to see all the empty space.... This is an MMO, and player and ship interaction is incredibly important... empty space is not...

As a former Independence War (I and II) player, I WISH eve had the ability to just pick a direction and warp. to all the naysayers:

• having this ability does NOT mean a return of the ability to create broken deep safe spots. a simple explanation would be that no vessel currently available to capsuleers is able to survive in interstellar space beyond the Heliopause of the star system it is in, due to intense cosmic radiation. for practical purposes, CCP could simply say that for 'safety' reasons, capsuleer ships are not permitted to travel more than 20AU beyond the farthest planetary orbit per CONCORD treaty (unless and until there is possible new content that might take place way out there), and that said limitation is hard-coded into the navigational computer systems of all capsuleer vessels, with no possibility of removal or hacking (treat the navcomps as CONCORD issued black boxes, and leave it at that).


• making use of a 'point the ship and warp' would require some means of determining HOW FAR to warp. obviously, a ship can only warp as far in a single warp as far as its' capacitor permits, and that number is modified by pilot skills. CCP would have to make some option that would allow a pilot to specifiy how far or how much cap would be used in the custom warp, and that course plotting would potentially take significantly longer than just picking a destination and clicking 'warp to x km'. due to this, a custom warp would be difficult to use as a split-second defensive tactic. it might even require the use of the System Map, with a nav system similar to that used in the Homeworld games, which would be AWESOME.


• ships would be plenty easy to find if the hunters were given better tools for the job. interceptors in particular should be able to warp directly to a target found via the D-Scanner instead of having to wait for a probe ship to find a target or predict where a target will warp to (only useable against player ships with signature radius being an important factor) . similarly, a page could be taken from the I-War book in the form of the warp-scrambler missile, an interceptor-only (perhaps recon ship as well) missile which would be able to follow a ship into warp, forcibly terminate the targets warp, and activate a beacon allowing the pursuers to actually PURSUE and INTERCEPT (of course, actual success in pursuit would not be guaranteed).

I've posted before along a similar train of thought, and am all for making eve a more dynamic combat environment. I loathe the current nav-point exclusive model.

1.) not really viabe as warpin has typicaly not always but typicaly needs a destination warp without a warp out point could in theory even rl put you anywere in the galaxy.

2.) warp bail out again isnt that easy a thing to sudenly stop warp could cause things like your ship to break apart or reversing the thrust quickly could upon up a blackhole or rip a whole i sub space none of witch are good. then there minor things such as engines being dmged from it ect.