EVE General Discussion

recently a change was made to how capacitor batteries behave. see below...

"Provides defense against Energy Leech and Energy Neutralizer effects."

i want to open a discussion about this change and how it affects specialized ships such as the pilgrim/curse, legion, cruor, sentinel (there maybe be a few more)

these ships have a bonus to "energy vampire and energy neutralizer transfer amount". and some of these ships take a good amount of training to fly.

i feel that these ships, especially those that take a while to train such as the curse and pilgrim, should be immune to this new battery behavior. much like the way a heavy interdictor is immune to the affect of a warp core stabilizer if the dictor points the ship with this mod fitted (not talking about dropping a bubble).

the fact that a tech 1 battery can effectively cripple a pilgrims behavior of neuting a target just seems unfair. this was my personal experience recently in tackling a target in lowsec. i found myself cap-less very quickly. I found this to be frustrating mainly because i spent the time to train for a pilgrim, and now find it to be somewhat of a crippled ship in that its bonus attribute is strongly hindered by a tech 1 mod that anyone can use.

TLDR; i am proposing that specialized ships be immune to the new battery behavior.

i am hoping that a dev will read this post and provide his/her opinion on the matter.

Thank you
Kitanga

Wow really? Batterys are fit rarely at best and yet everything has a counter. Now your Cap drain has a counter deal with it

Posting in a my iWin button doesnt work anymore thread.

You do know that they don't provide total protection, but reflect just a portion a the nuet?

looking at my logs, it was triggered often..

Honestly, people wont waste a mid to reduce the effects of one of the most powerful forms of ewar in the game (ECCM to counter ECM) and you think that people are going to now waste a mid to fit a cap battery?

Yea, im sure this is going to happen often.

If anything else at least it makes it possibly viable on a pvp ship, though i am still pretty certain the km will just get laughed off the internet.

The difference is that cap batteries actually provide a benefit — ECCM does not. And anyway, people already tend to spend a midslot on fitting the standard anti-cap warfare module… so it doesn't seem all that unlikely.

to address the ECCM mod argument: the battery mod has been in the game forever, with the purpose of increasing the cap of a ship. it is not a specialized 'counter' mod. This new attribute has been added to batteries instead of adding a NEW mod whose sole purpose is to "Provide defense against Energy Leech and Energy Neutralizer effects." if a new mod was added whose sole purpose was to provide protection to cap neutralizing ships then your argument would have weight, and i would not have made this post.


to address 'my iWin button doesnt work anymore' comments: the cap neutralizing ships are inherently PVP ships. you do not run missions in these ships. and with the affective killing off of empire war decs(R.I.P. war dec corps), you care-bear highsec types will not even see ships like this on your grid. so stop cheering when CCP dumbs down the game.. Let a PVP ship do what they are designed to do, without a tech 1 mod disabling it.

No one really uses the battery because its defence is so feeble (it is effectively 1 med neuts worth of counter neuting). All it really does is requires the neuter to be a bit more sensible when they have the enemy neuted down. Its most definately not dumbing down, quite the opposite.

Defence against neuting has always been the primary purpose of batteries anyway (for cap regen recharger is better unless you have all that fitting to spare with an oversize), all cpp has done is make them a bit better at it.

why waste a midslot if you can complain on forums and blogs in the hope that it will be nerfed?