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EVE Online: A game or a way of life? At what point is it to much?
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Az Tek
Overheat.Everything
#41 - 2012-08-30 05:08:50 UTC
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Obsession is the perfect word, there is only one other game out there like EVE and perpetuum just doesn't cut it after you start liking EVE. Once you like eve you start looking for other games like it and you realize there really isn't any.


Again I totally agree and as I'm sure everyone knows this is the truth. Also no matter how burnt out you get or no matter how long of a break you take for the how ever many times you almost always come back.

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Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
#42 - 2012-08-30 09:05:25 UTC
Slight aside from the "when is too much" question, but from a medical point of view you start to worry about addiction when you answer yes to any questions like this:

- Ever felt you ought to cut down on your game time?
- Have you been annoyed by people criticizing the amount of time you spend in the game?
- Have you ever felt guilty about how long you spend playing?
- Have you ever spent time playing to the detriment of your health, career, family or similar?
- Do you feel you need to get a certain amount of game time to feel good?

Not a definitive way of saying "damn man you're addicted" but just the sort of stuff that makes you go, "Ooh, should maybe have a bit of a think about this."

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Sotah Osodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-08-31 08:31:32 UTC
Many other games are like cigarettes and candy - you just keep consuming without ever getting satisfied. To me EVE sessions are like unwinding with a big fat cigar every now and then. After a couple of hours i get the feeling that I'm satisified and log off with a smile. Cool
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#44 - 2012-08-31 14:11:43 UTC
Az Tek wrote:
So my question, I assume, is pretty straight forward; At what point is it to much. 'It' being the game players obsession over the game. There are many different types, groups, and or categories of gamers (Or all being one in the same) however for the sake of typing (on my phone) we'll use just two. Casual gamers and hardcore gamers.

Now the word obsession may not be the right word to use. Any game can be addictive, some more than others. I'm speaking in general terms. Another word may be more appropriate; I'm referring to the game players drive and 'motivation'. At what point is playing too much. This being the amount of time your playing. Can you get 'too' involved in this/any game? What defines too much or too involved? Obviously this is a loaded question not based on any facts, except only comparatively maybe, and one completely based on opinion.

I know some players who will log maybe 5 hours a week of game play (casual gamers) whereas I know others who have logged more than 40+ (hardcore gamers) I myself have logged over 100+ hours in a single week. A few times I even spent my entire weekend, waking up Friday morning and not going to sleep until Sunday night, playing EVE. I've logged some crazy hours in EVE yet I've met a few others who have logged more. So what makes the difference between a hardcore gamer and one morbidly obsessed? (If there is such a thing)

Example: I know a guy who made flash cards of EACH and every ship in eve as well as drones and mods to memorize dmg types, attributes, etc, to better understand game mechanics. I personally see nothing wrong with this and got copies of said flash cards. Ofc they helped. Knowing all these things in advance and not having to seek references prior to commiting to an engagement are truly helpful.

However, it being helpful or not is neither the issue or concern. It's whether or not this level of commitment to a game is good or bad, or healthy or unhealthy etc, etc,. I'm only curious because me (hardcore EVE player), a friend (casual EVE player), and my mom (hardcore WOW player) were discussing it and I wanted some outside input. Sorry for the length and feel free to comment or troll. Thanks.



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smokess
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-08-31 14:38:29 UTC  |  Edited by: smokess
'Too involved' being a notion of subjectivity, technically I do not think that it is possible to become so provided the gamer himself is comfortable with the amount of playing time spent gaming, either on one particular game or more generally. One could argue that the feelings of others are entirely irrelevant.

If you are covertly searching, as I suspect you are, for an answer to satisfy your own need to justify your gaming habits then you have likely come to the right place. I doubt many here will slate you with the kind of opinion one would expect of the generally prejudicial view of gaming that a lot of non-gamers seem to take.

In any event I would say this; provided you are comfortable with how much time you spend gaming I personally wouldn't worry about what others may or may not think. Third parties might suggest things such as 'if you are cancelling real events to play a game it is too much', but again that is their subjective view and can, in my opinion, be disregarded as such. It is, all things considered, for you to decide how best to rank your opportunities according to priority (presumably based upon the interest that you take in various activities), not for others to impose their own priorities onto your available opportunities. By all means take other peoples' views into account, but one should, I always think, live life according to what is comfortable to them, not others.

To take your question and consider a larger perspective; why should anyone have to justify what they choose to do in their own free time, provided they are content and not unjustly interfering with others?

Meh.
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