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WTS Hulk pilot with Unallocated skill points: 322,525
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Justin Credulent
Luv You Long Time
#21 - 2011-09-28 00:49:11 UTC
go back to 4chan where memes are still cool

Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships!
Brandy Miner
Dead-Silence
#22 - 2011-09-28 01:12:39 UTC
For anybody that hasn't done the math.

1 plex is selling for around 400 mil right now

It takes 4 months to train a pilot that can barely fly a Hulk (I'm barely over that)
It costs $20 (abut 533 mil isk) to transfer a character.

Therefore, I have 4 plexes (1.2 bil) plus $20.00 (533 mil) invested to train and transfer this character. That's 1.733 bil.

Please explain to me how 1.5 bil rips you off.

Oh, that's right, you can't.
Justin Credulent
Luv You Long Time
#23 - 2011-09-28 01:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Credulent
some problems with what you said:

you can train a hulk pilot with a buddy invite to yourself + 1 plex to activate it to full account. this will grant 51 days of play time. see this link to see how a hulk pilot can be trained in just under 51 days.

plex is not selling for 400 million isk, not even in backwater stations. plex is about 360 million, give or take.

add 65 million from +3 implants and skillbooks for hulk pilot and you're looking at 425 - 500 million isk to train a hulk pilot in about 50 days.

50 days = 1.66 months, not 4 months.

im not going to outright accuse you of scamming, but what youre saying doesnt add up to what actually is the reality of the matter.

Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships!
General Bud
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2011-09-28 01:26:11 UTC  |  Edited by: General Bud
sorry im just gona LOL@that trash and move on good luck to whoever cops up 1.5bil for this




*edit im gona have to agree with justin
Justin Credulent
Luv You Long Time
#25 - 2011-09-28 01:26:39 UTC
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im just gona LOL@that trash and move on good luck to whoever cops up 1.5bil for this

Null-Sec needs to HTFU and stop crying to CCP. If null-sec wants PvP, they need to stop being carebears and start fighting eachother - after years of bot-mining, they have the ships!
Raendel
#26 - 2011-09-28 01:32:36 UTC
Damn, someone got smacked.

Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, although I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Sierra Golf
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2011-09-28 02:03:22 UTC
Brandy Miner wrote:
For anybody that hasn't done the math.

1 plex is selling for around 400 mil right now

It takes 4 months to train a pilot that can barely fly a Hulk (I'm barely over that)
It costs $20 (abut 533 mil isk) to transfer a character.

Therefore, I have 4 plexes (1.2 bil) plus $20.00 (533 mil) invested to train and transfer this character. That's 1.733 bil.

Please explain to me how 1.5 bil rips you off.

Oh, that's right, you can't.



Ummm ... with your math ... I think you need to run the numbers again ... and maybe use a calculator this time.

IF 1 plex sells for 400m, and IF you had 4 of them, would this not be 4 x 400m = 1.6bn? 4 x 300m = 1.2bn.

Also, I agree with some of the other posts. I have trained a hulk pilot and brought a 2nd for 1.1bn. It's easy to train for them and certainly doesn't take 4 months. Remap + Implants = Not 4 months.

That being said, good luck with you sale and bump.
Brandy Miner
Dead-Silence
#28 - 2011-09-28 03:48:37 UTC
Justin Credulent wrote:
some problems with what you said:

you can train a hulk pilot with a buddy invite to yourself + 1 plex to activate it to full account. this will grant 51 days of play time. see this link to see how a hulk pilot can be trained in just under 51 days.



That's a nice guide. Thanks for that. It does indeed cut the training time in half.

Justin Credulent wrote:

plex is not selling for 400 million isk, not even in backwater stations. plex is about 360 million, give or take.


And this is total crap. There is exactly one plex in contract right now at 350 mil and it's in an auction that hasn't finished. The real price is much closer to 400 mil than it is 360

Justin Credulent wrote:


add 65 million from +3 implants and skillbooks for hulk pilot and you're looking at 425 - 500 million isk to train a hulk pilot in about 50 days.

50 days = 1.66 months, not 4 months.

im not going to outright accuse you of scamming, but what youre saying doesnt add up to what actually is the reality of the matter.


So if we add it all up again, using your training time which is obviously possible, and a more realistic 390 mil plex cost (excluding buddy account but including $20.00 fee to transfer) We get about 1.2 bil actual cost. Obviously being able to jump right in and use the character without waiting 1.66 months should be worth something, right?
Brandy Miner
Dead-Silence
#29 - 2011-09-28 03:52:32 UTC
Sierra Golf wrote:


Ummm ... with your math ... I think you need to run the numbers again ... and maybe use a calculator this time.

IF 1 plex sells for 400m, and IF you had 4 of them, would this not be 4 x 400m = 1.6bn? 4 x 300m = 1.2bn.

Also, I agree with some of the other posts. I have trained a hulk pilot and brought a 2nd for 1.1bn. It's easy to train for them and certainly doesn't take 4 months. Remap + Implants = Not 4 months.

That being said, good luck with you sale and bump.



Insert blushing face here. :) I'll sharpen up on my third grade math, and I have noted the less than 2 month training guide.
Raendel
#30 - 2011-09-28 04:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Raendel
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Justin Credulent wrote:

plex is not selling for 400 million isk, not even in backwater stations. plex is about 360 million, give or take.


And this is total crap. There is exactly one plex in contract right now at 350 mil and it's in an auction that hasn't finished. The real price is much closer to 400 mil than it is 360


You're really good at being misleading. However, there's places other than contracts to purchase PLEX. In Rens they're going for around 370.

Factor in the $20 transfer fee and you're looking at 800-900 million, not 1.2 billion... nice try...

Transfer fee isn't even supposed to be a factor... isn't it CCP rules that the seller pays the transfer? Converting the transfer cost into ISK and tacking that onto your asking price... isnt' that making the buyer pay the transfer?

Tut tut.

Anyway Brandy, you'll probably have better luck selling this character if you don't argue with the entire forum and **** people off with your ignorance. Just sayin'.

Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, although I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
kingrebelf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-09-28 05:33:14 UTC
my offer was more than fair price for what you got, get in game and do the thing or consider my offer retracted. 1.3 b/o
Brandy Miner
Dead-Silence
#32 - 2011-09-28 15:44:28 UTC
kingrebelf wrote:
my offer was more than fair price for what you got, get in game and do the thing or consider my offer retracted. 1.3 b/o


OK, If your offer is still good, please send isk to me, and tell me where you would like the extra skill points applied. I'll be on lunch break in just over an hour. I can finish my part of the transfer then.
kingrebelf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2011-09-28 17:55:21 UTC
convo me in game to get isk
Brandy Miner
Dead-Silence
#34 - 2011-09-28 18:11:52 UTC
kingrebelf wrote:
convo me in game to get isk


OK, I got tied up at lunch. I'll try to sneak out of here in the next hour or so.
kingrebelf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2011-09-28 18:34:28 UTC
1.3 bil sent, waiting for transfer
Brandy Miner
Dead-Silence
#36 - 2011-09-28 18:43:21 UTC
Isk received, ccp fee paid.
kingrebelf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2011-09-28 18:57:26 UTC
Brandy Miner wrote:
Isk received, ccp fee paid.

just received confirmation email regarding the character transfer.
Raendel
#38 - 2011-10-06 17:45:53 UTC
kingrebelf wrote:
Brandy Miner wrote:
Isk received, ccp fee paid.

just received confirmation email regarding the character transfer.


Damn, you let yourself get ripped off hard.

Hey, I got a bridge for sale...

Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, although I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
foxy69
All Aussie Adventures
#39 - 2011-10-14 11:40:49 UTC
i will pay 1.5 bil
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