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Why do you pod kill?
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Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#61 - 2012-08-31 04:41:19 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Because they would do the same to me if our positions were reversed.


I would use that as an opportunity to demonstrate how you are a better player than they are.

Ghazu
#62 - 2012-08-31 04:42:38 UTC
If you need to ask you will always be in denial.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#63 - 2012-08-31 04:48:00 UTC
Sadly, I do not pod kill.

Never seem to be able to lock in time, and salvagers don't do much damage...
Beta Stryker
Yet Another Holding Corporation
#64 - 2012-08-31 04:51:17 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
In w-space, because it forces them out of the wormhole. Elsewhere, because you never know what assets they might have nearby; it's preferable that they have to come back to you from "home" than go a few jumps and return in another ship.


About your latter point. It seems less likely that they would keep their important assets somewhere other than where they keep their clone.


Since you can't clone jump into/around in WHs, a lot of WH-only corp/alliances DO have their most useful/expensive ships/items in the W-space, away from their clone.

Also, pods in w-space are simply a security risk. No local ftw.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#65 - 2012-08-31 05:03:50 UTC
Beta Stryker wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
In w-space, because it forces them out of the wormhole. Elsewhere, because you never know what assets they might have nearby; it's preferable that they have to come back to you from "home" than go a few jumps and return in another ship.


About your latter point. It seems less likely that they would keep their important assets somewhere other than where they keep their clone.


Since you can't clone jump into/around in WHs, a lot of WH-only corp/alliances DO have their most useful/expensive ships/items in the W-space, away from their clone.

Also, pods in w-space are simply a security risk. No local ftw.


Huh.

Well, one of these days I'll have to try and figure out how to operate in a wormhole corp. Because keeping your assets in wormhole space seems like a good way to lose your stuff.
Frying Doom
#66 - 2012-08-31 05:10:23 UTC
Like most of the PvP in this game, you receive instant gratification.

The entire World of Warcraft is built on this ideal, you do something and you get a meaningless pat on the back or flashy graphic.

So in essence people pod kill so they get a double pat on the back in the form of the kill mails. This makes them feel as they have accomplished something and gives them a feeling of self worth.

Skills are the same you get a nice pop up to say you have completed training something and might be entitled to a certificate.

So pod kills are just psychology.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#67 - 2012-08-31 05:13:19 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Like most of the PvP in this game, you receive instant gratification.

The entire World of Warcraft is built on this ideal, you do something and you get a meaningless pat on the back or flashy graphic.

So in essence people pod kill so they get a double pat on the back in the form of the kill mails. This makes them feel as they have accomplished something and gives them a feeling of self worth.

Skills are the same you get a nice pop up to say you have completed training something and might be entitled to a certificate.

So pod kills are just psychology.


Good observation. In fact, that's also why I don't pod kill. Knowing that I was given the opportunity when I came out victorious against a single foolhardy pirate, I decided not to take his implants and clone for its own sake.

Also, I am a bit of a certificate junkie. Oops
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#68 - 2012-08-31 06:01:05 UTC
For the killmail. I will pod anyone. I'd pod myself if I weren't such a moneygrubbing misanthrope.

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Ghazu
#69 - 2012-08-31 06:34:38 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Like most of the PvP in this game, you receive instant gratification.

The entire World of Warcraft is built on this ideal, you do something and you get a meaningless pat on the back or flashy graphic.

So in essence people pod kill so they get a double pat on the back in the form of the kill mails. This makes them feel as they have accomplished something and gives them a feeling of self worth.

Skills are the same you get a nice pop up to say you have completed training something and might be entitled to a certificate.

So pod kills are just psychology.


Good observation. In fact, that's also why I don't pod kill. Knowing that I was given the opportunity when I came out victorious against a single foolhardy pirate, I decided not to take his implants and clone for its own sake.

Also, I am a bit of a certificate junkie. Oops


Mutual stroking each other to a feel good happy altruistic ending can I join in?

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Frying Doom
#70 - 2012-08-31 07:08:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Ghazu wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Like most of the PvP in this game, you receive instant gratification.

The entire World of Warcraft is built on this ideal, you do something and you get a meaningless pat on the back or flashy graphic.

So in essence people pod kill so they get a double pat on the back in the form of the kill mails. This makes them feel as they have accomplished something and gives them a feeling of self worth.

Skills are the same you get a nice pop up to say you have completed training something and might be entitled to a certificate.

So pod kills are just psychology.


Good observation. In fact, that's also why I don't pod kill. Knowing that I was given the opportunity when I came out victorious against a single foolhardy pirate, I decided not to take his implants and clone for its own sake.

Also, I am a bit of a certificate junkie. Oops


Mutual stroking each other to a feel good happy altruistic ending can I join in?

Normally I would say yes but given your history, I am sorry there is no way to say this easily. You are just going to have to mutually stoke your current friends, no one else will trust it, considering where you have been.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#71 - 2012-08-31 07:28:18 UTC
My most priced possession are three CCP Corpses.

Oh, how I love to look at them, hold them, fondle them....

Je suis Paris // Köln // Brüssel // Orlando // Nice // Würzburg, München, Ansbach // Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray

Je suis Berlin // Fort Lauderdale // London // St. Petersburg // Stockholm

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Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#72 - 2012-08-31 07:57:08 UTC
Generally speaking I don't care about PODS, but its not all some sort of psychological "pat on the back" thrill. There is tactical purpose to taking out a pod depending on the situation.

1. The person in the pod might be their leader giving instructions on the fight. With their POD dead they are blind.

2. In the case of wars you want to punish you enemy financially as much as possible, forcing them to replace pods instead of buying ships is a good way to do that and it gives you an advantage in your war campaign.

3. PODS can act as very effective scouts as outside of warp bubbles they are pretty tough to lock and scram before they escape. Eliminating scouts makes your fleet safer.

4. Obviously in wormhole fights, popping PODS forces them out of the wormhole and often out of any conflict for a good long time thanks to the nature of wormhole entry points shifting all the time. It also prevents them from potentially warping back to their POS and getting another ship, which is a major tactical problem if your not on home turf. In wormholes POD killing is automatic and sometimes even top priority over other ships you might be fighting at the time.

5. Bounties. Nothing like that extra little bonus for PODDING someone to get paid.

6. Refusal to pay ransom. You have to recognize that if you warp scram a pod and demand a ransom, if they refuse, you have to follow through with your threat else your word is meaningless and you and your corp look weak.

7. Revenge. For me, this is often a major motivator. In any given fight my corp my lose assets worth millions, given the opportunity to get some pay back for that transgression by causing my enemy a financial loss is important for corp morale. When we fly back from a fight in which we lost ships, morale is greatly improved if I know that we did more damage than they did win or lose.

So yeah, in any given situation there is always some aspect of that situation that warrents podding. But no i personally don't automatically POD everything I can, often times when I respect an opponents skills in the fight I won't pod him, instead locking him, warp scramming, giving him a GF in local and letting them go.

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#73 - 2012-08-31 08:02:25 UTC
For the corpses ofc.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2012-08-31 08:05:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
There are tactical reasons behind podding somone but I think the main reason is to spite your target and remove implants (hopefully expensive ones.)

edit: trust frying doom to go off on one about "no honoure!". Good job underlining pvp as simply a hunt for killmails I didnt realise that was the aim. I was too busy having fun with the experience to tell.
smokess
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2012-08-31 09:38:34 UTC
I used to do it for the ransom. If it's not paid you don't have a choice but to kill the pod or people don't take you seriously.

Now I just do it for the laugh.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#76 - 2012-08-31 10:38:58 UTC
I could say I do it for tactical reasons (which could be true)

I could say I do it for the kill mail (which could also be true)

I could say I do it just to clean up my overview (yup, a real possibility)

But mostly I do it by reflex without even realising I have done it until I see the mail.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-08-31 11:31:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Borlag Crendraven
Because I want to be hip like the kids nowadays, that's why iPod.

Seriously though, because I can. When I shoot someone it's pretty much always an enemy of sorts or at the very least an opponent in that specific battle. If given the opportunity, I see absolutely no reason not to crush them entirely which naturally includes the pod as well.

edit: the target paying ransom would make things different, those we honor.
Aracimia Wolfe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2012-08-31 13:56:50 UTC
Because I can.
Because I want to
Because they didn't pay the ransom
Because they might have shiny implants
Because of those magic moments when they send you ragemail/tells
Because the Fleet leader told me to.
Because the suffering of another human being gives me a warm little glow
Because all of the above
Hell, just because.

Kill it with Fire!

Balanah
Quebec's Underdog League
Quebec United Legions
#79 - 2012-08-31 14:45:54 UTC
In pod we trust.

Wormhole animal.
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#80 - 2012-08-31 15:13:56 UTC
Because bots have no soul.

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