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New dev blog: Generic Patcher and Multi payload installer

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#61 - 2011-10-14 09:08:20 UTC
CCP Cascade wrote:
Che Biko wrote:

If so, when you are asked to download and install the patch, I would love a checkbox that says something like "Clear cache after patching". Then I won't have to restart my client again just to clear the cache.


Another good suggestion! We will be looking into how we would want to do this, it will either be by user choice or just done automatically every time you patch. Do you have any preference?


Doing it automatically is bad. You can leave the option on as default but leave the user the ability to switch it off if he/she/it so desires.

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#62 - 2011-10-14 09:11:11 UTC
Afandi wrote:
3. Delete the cache directory after cleaning, not just backup it. That is a BAD design. The command is 'clear cache', not 'backup cache'.


If CCP does this I sincerely hope they add the 'backup cache' option into the game.

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Alain Kinsella
#63 - 2011-10-14 10:35:35 UTC
Afandi wrote:
CCP dev team, you are going to make many people happy, by adding the following:
1. Ability to change the default download directory.
2. Ability to change the default cache/logs/etc directory, which is now defaulting to "Documents and Settings/[User name]/...". I, for one, really don't like having a cache growing wildly on my system partition.
3. Delete the cache directory after cleaning, not just backup it. That is a BAD design. The command is 'clear cache', not 'backup cache'.


Item 2 is my primary issue, more than the other two. I've had far too many bad experiences of applications generating tons of tiny little files in its install dir (hello, former There.com! *headdesk*). It gets worse in Win7 as they put harder write controls in place (I used to move the *entire* My Documents folder elsewhere - made backup a breeze).

SL has a similar directory cache setup as Eve, but at least its a monolithic DB-type file, and in recent iterations you can move the directory (though finding the setting is still a pain).

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Ogogov
Arpy Corporation
#64 - 2011-10-14 20:46:20 UTC
Is there some reason that the SiSilauncher tool can't be deployed to intelligently patch areas of a tranquility installation?

By and large, SiSilauncher works very well in my anecdotal experience.
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#65 - 2011-10-15 15:00:33 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
CCP Cascade wrote:

[..] it will either be by user choice or just done automatically every time you patch. Do you have any preference?

[..] You can leave the option on as default but leave the user the ability to switch it off if he/she/it so desires.

This is my preference as well.

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Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#66 - 2011-10-27 19:19:17 UTC
I'm interested in knowing how you patch partial files. I'm assuming there is some min file size in which this is implemented, due to diminishing returns, and that there is a minimum amount of data that needs to get replaced if even one bit were off.
Are you splitting the file up into XX byte chunks and hashing it, then replacing the chunks that fail to match?
Xander Hunt
#67 - 2011-11-11 14:36:48 UTC
So when I found out that the new updater is on Sisi, I immediately ran the SisiLauncher, let it do its usual damage of downloading stuffs, then went and did a hunt for launcher.exe. It was there. WOOT!

But.. err.. Minor problem.

When I went to launch it, I had two of my TQ clients up and running at the same time. The loader told me that it wanted to close the other clients. After a full release, I can see it wanting to do that (Kill all running clients) but why would it ask me if

A> The TQ clients live on another HDD
B> It is querying the fact that another EVE.EXE is running outside its own EVE.EXE

Now, my three TQ clients are junctioned, so I know that I have to close all the TQ clients. But the SISI client isn't even on the same HDD.

Shouldn't the loader know which app to run instead of looking for all generic EVE instances? Especially if one is for TQ the other is for SISI? I'm not sure I want to close my TQ clients just to update SISI.
Ibeau Renoir
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2011-11-14 02:30:00 UTC
So the claim is that the generic patcher will patch your client no matter how old it is (as long as it's a released client version). Next time I have to reinstall I'll hold you to that by installing from my 2003 S&SI retail CD Twisted

Xander Hunt wrote:
Shouldn't the loader know which app to run instead of looking for all generic EVE instances? Especially if one is for TQ the other is for SISI? I'm not sure I want to close my TQ clients just to update SISI.

I would guess it just kills all processes called ExeFile.exe... this has also annoyed me a few times when I've been patching Sisi and the patcher kills my TQ session Ugh

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