EVE New Citizens Q&A

I know this is the Q/A forums and i dont actually have a question. I do however get asked this a lot by new players so i thought i'd just clarify for those new players considering this route.

Industrial ships have huge cargo holds and this leads a LOT of new miners to train for indy's as a mining ship. This is absolutely the worst idea since Michael Jackson thought to himself "hey, i wonder what Macaulay Culkin's up to tonight".

The large cargo hold may make an indy seem like a prime mining ship, IT IS NOT.

People who use indy's to mine are either so new they know no better, or they are AFK miners. AFK miners like to leave an indy mining a rock and go do something else.

For those of you who want to make any actual money in mining without waiting all day for little profit, get literally almost any other ship and you will drasticaly improve your profit margin. Indy's have room for 1 or 2 mining lasers and as such even un-bonused ships of almost any kind will mine faster than an indy.

Get a T1 mining bonused frigate and laugh at the p*ss poor profits of everyone you see mining in an indy. Unless you are an AFK miner in which case you aren't worth talking about, industrial ships are a STUPID choice of mining ship. Most stuff in eve is very opinion based, this is not. It amazes me how many people there are running round advising new players to mine in indys, don't.

Laugh and walk away.

I fully approve this.

+10 for the best advice ever.

If you want to mine:

- racial frigate with mining bonus (or the new mining frigate after winter update)
- racial cruiser with mining bonus
- mining barges (ship of choice: procurer = tank, retriever = hold space, covetor = yield)
- exhumers (skiff = tank, mackinaw = hold space, hulk = yield)

Cargosize doesnt make a ship good for mining, it makes a ship good for MOVING GOODS.
So mine with a frigate and you CAN jetcan the ores to pick them up later with an industrial ship.

What a POINTLESS post :)

1. Yes they do, i explained that clearly in the first line of my post. Read it next time before bumping your post numbers at everyones expense.

2. The point of the thread is obvious and was also clearly pointed out just for people like you :)

Must say tho, while i dont like indy mining i kinda dont support jetcan mining for new players either. Do it if u must but remember not to cry when someone comes along and steals it. I tend to steal every jetcan i see on principal For those new players who don't realise yet, your jetcans can be detected on directional scan (like everything else) almost instantly on entering a system. Just because you're alone in a belt doesn't mean people you cant even see don't know exactly what you're doing.

Also Sin man i really enjoy your sig :D

+1 for keep trying to educate newbies :)

Almost a year ago I was one of those lost in space newbies myself and threads like that helped me a lot to understand not so obvious things. I didn't mine a lot myself because I joined under an influence of Tuskers' charm of pirate life blogs but still, the more educated newbies will get the more of them will actually stay. And moar targets is never a bad thing :)

Don't sweat it mate :)
It was informative and helpful, rest is just details and semantics.
Could also have said that I just felt bad for being a new ignorant player myself, and therefore read into your OP the condescending tone.
Anyways, it is not important, what is important is the message in your OP.

o/

Anybody bashing you because of this should consider biomass button. Age of a toon or years of playing have nothing to do with validity of advice. You can correct it, you can expand it, you can praise it but being bittervet and blase about everything doesn't make you an expert, it makes you a waste of server space. It is just another thing that always puzzles me: if you don't like the game why do you keep playing? What's the point of barking loudly how terrible it is instead of just, you know, go do something else?

The only person you are helping by mining in an industrial are the gankers.

Reading is something they didnt teach you.

OP said that indy mining is "good" for AFK mining (which is what you did).
He is more talking about ATK mining in indy ships.

Yet the topic title reads Mining in an industrial - Just dont, where it should read Mining in an industrial - just dont, unless AFK.



Even though I just gave you a reason why it worked for me in one situation, I'm sure there are other situations it would also be useful for.

If you read the post properly you would have read my reference to AFK miners not being the point of the post, scroll up and read it again more carefully.

EDIT : On second thoughts i should add a personal opinion for context. I don't like AFK miners either. I kinda hold them almost as responsible as botters for bad mineral prices and poor player - player interaction in the game. I know it works and makes (small amounts of) ISK, but this is supposed to be a game. I fully support the idea of a small minigame while you mine to prevent AFK miners and bots alike. However that personal feeling has little relevence to my original post, which is based purely on numbers that suggest indy's to be crap for mining.