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A problem with mouse clicking and ship navigation

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Americe Zane
The Lucky Punx
#21 - 2012-07-19 05:39:47 UTC
I'd recommend the Cyborg MMO7. Lots of buttons, but unlike the Razor, you can easily use them.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#22 - 2012-07-19 06:06:15 UTC
I had this problem when i used a wireless mouse, got corded and it went away.

The Drake is a Lie

Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#23 - 2012-07-19 07:32:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hehaw Jimbojohnson
The Razer Naga is a piece of crap. Both my cousin and I bought one a couple years or so ago (was on sale for a reasonable price so figured I'd try it for all of the extra buttons), and BOTH of them had this same doubleclick problem within 3 months. Mine was doing it in less than 2, but I game a bit more than him. It made playing Eve impossible, because clicking to target something would start approaching it half the time.

Went with a good ole fashioned Logitech G500, relatively basic but was cheap and is still working like new after almost 2 years of heavy use. My old G5 I got 5+ years ago still works fine with my laptop after being my main mouse for about 3 years on my PC, though the top of it is so faded it looks like hell. They don't have many buttons, but a relatively cheap mouse that actually performs its basic functions and has DPI settings is far more important IMO.

EDIT: Also, as other users pointed out, the Razer software is relatively terrible with many programs, too.
Dubstepcat
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-07-19 07:58:09 UTC
Been running with a free mouse I got with my computer....for the past 3 years with no problems.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#25 - 2012-07-19 09:40:51 UTC
left click on your mouse is entering structure ! Shocked
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-01 14:36:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
I have a Razer Naga and have the same problem in EVE. Only thing is...of all the games I play, EVE Is the only one with this issue.

So somebody please explain to me how it's the mouse that is the problem? Maybe I am just lucky it isn't a problem with other games. Since it seems to be a widespread issue I found this with a google search.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/59113-3-fixing-razer-naga-mouse-double-clicking-problem-walkthrough

I will try that when I get home and report back on whether it works or not for EVE. I will keep buying Razer products...one small issue isn't going to kill the company for me. They make a great product for games.

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Elza Laduko
Suddenly Carebears
#27 - 2012-08-29 04:18:32 UTC
Have same issue but i have Logitech G9x

I have no problems with it in any other game...

If someone found the solution, plz post =(
Raiz Nhell
PeregrineXII
#28 - 2012-08-29 04:38:56 UTC
Mouse is borked...

I get weird issues with my mac cordless mouse... but I suspect they are personal related rather than hardware.

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.

Elza Laduko
Suddenly Carebears
#29 - 2012-08-29 04:47:24 UTC
And i found solution :D

http://www.experienceit.pl/download

weeeeee HF
ashley Eoner
#30 - 2012-08-29 05:17:41 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
My trusty ilntellimouse explorer 3.0 has recently started acting up since the last major patch. The mouse works fine in all other games but will give me double clicks galore in eve. I end up flying off on accident when trying to single click something.

USB connection with XP operating system and the standard MS drivers.

Oddly when I swapped the intellimouse out with an old generic dynex mouse I no longer had double click issues in eve.
Tekniq
Bionic Systems
#31 - 2012-08-29 06:21:40 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Normally a double click changes the path of my ship. That is the way that it has always been since I started playing eve many years ago. Now... for some reason, a click-mouseslide-release changes the course of my ship too. So I can no longer pan the camera around my ship without also turning said ship.



Thinking that this was a problem with my Razor Naga, I reinstalled the driver this morning.



Still the same thing. So is this a new "feature" that I must now live with? Is there a setting I can change that will stop this client behavior? Do I need t o get rid of my Razor Naga? Any advice would be appreciated.



try drawing straight lines in paint you ll see:

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your button is too old. repair or buy new mouse
Matriarch Prime
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-08-29 06:40:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Matriarch Prime
Mousebuttons can become worn and start sensing doubled clicks from single clicks. The first time I encountered it was with a microsoft intellimouse a decade ago. As a precaution you should open up your naga software and ensure that it says click, not double click for the left mouse button. Next you may wish to to try changing the double click speed in the windows setting, it could have gotten set to low. Move the slider around a bit, and apply and then move it to your desired setting to ensure that it gets set to the correct frequency. Make sure you naga sotware and firmware are up to date. mouse manufactures will sometimes put microfilter in the software that will ignore extremely high frequency click to help alieviate this issue.

There is some software call mousefix.exe. I've used it for years to fix users issue with old mice. Those it has been a while you should be able to find it. It is a simply small program that intercept the freqency clicks and sends a single in its stead. Nothing fancy, completely free. Do a google search, it comes up.

Lastly, there are guides available to help walk you through owner mainenance/repair. Google "fix naga false double click". It may seem dounting, and may be if you are terrible will your hands, but it really is a simple as finding the switch and giving a dab or two of electronic cleaner. Alcohol (isopropl), not acetone (finger nail polish remover), may some times be substuted. To be clear I said alcohol, not acetone. Acetone will melt the plastic innards faster than you can get it off. Use the ALCOHOL sparingly (that means as little as possible), and work the mechanics. Alcohol! Make a note, if you haven't. :P

Do no do as some say and use wd-40 or some other light mechanical oil. Oil is for flushing organic material or for protecting from oxidation, and it doesn't go away. It stays where you put it until it oxidizes into a gooey, gunky mess that will leave you worse off than where you started. Ever clean a lock or hing with wd-40 and have to do it over and over until it won't move anymore? Its all those gunky stick oxidize hydrocarbons that have been left after the volatile solvents have evaporated. You should have used a graphite or another solid lubricant instead. But I'm off topic. If you use oil, you will be bringing your mouse to a much swifter more persistently annoying demise.

Take care, and good luck. The naga is a fine mouse.

I like big guns. I can not lie. You other suckas can't deny. When I warp in, with an itty bity sig, with an arty in your face, you get sprung. You want to pull out your debuffs, 'cause you want to loot my stuff...deep, in a worm with nary, an escape but you can't stop staring. 'Cause, Oh crap!, Baby's got Point!

Matriarch Prime
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-08-29 06:47:16 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
My trusty ilntellimouse explorer 3.0 has recently started acting up since the last major patch. The mouse works fine in all other games but will give me double clicks galore in eve. I end up flying off on accident when trying to single click something.

USB connection with XP operating system and the standard MS drivers.

Oddly when I swapped the intellimouse out with an old generic dynex mouse I no longer had double click issues in eve.


Definitely the mouse in your case, the intelimouse has a buggy switch which fails with surprising frequency. (More like fail like clockwork. :P) Download mousefix.exe. Follow the instructions, it is very easy, just drag it to your startup folder.

I found the original author.

http://www.danieljackson.co.uk/fun/old/

Follow the instructions. He has your free solution.

I like big guns. I can not lie. You other suckas can't deny. When I warp in, with an itty bity sig, with an arty in your face, you get sprung. You want to pull out your debuffs, 'cause you want to loot my stuff...deep, in a worm with nary, an escape but you can't stop staring. 'Cause, Oh crap!, Baby's got Point!

Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-08-29 07:13:05 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I have a Razer Naga and have the same problem in EVE. Only thing is...of all the games I play, EVE Is the only one with this issue.

So somebody please explain to me how it's the mouse that is the problem?


So maybe its a mouse driver problem then?

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies

Bing Khagah
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-08-29 10:56:34 UTC
A friend found a bug and reported it in detail early this year. The bug related to click-hold-drag operations (in space) resulting in the last-window-to-be-touched-prior being moved to the end point of the click-hold-drag (IIRC). This bug was fixed quickly. All previous responses are clearly the most likely, however if you can work through them without resolution (+ other mouse) then I'd suggest digging in the direction of independent reproduction as best you can. There is minor potential for an issue to exist in that area (IMO).
Sturmwolke
#36 - 2012-08-29 11:06:29 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
My trusty ilntellimouse explorer 3.0 has recently started acting up since the last major patch. The mouse works fine in all other games but will give me double clicks galore in eve. I end up flying off on accident when trying to single click something.


Ditto, but old model USB Logitech mouse. I'm beginning to suspect the UI/GPU having issues with screen update refresh that it just screws up the mouse. Nothing conclusive atm, though.
Had difficulty dragging items, resizing window and uncontrolled double-clicking (when your intention is a single-click) for both left AND right buttons.

Any dev can answer if EVE's pointer function is a hardware or software cursor?
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-08-29 14:24:38 UTC
That's your problem! Refit your Razor Naga into a Nano Naga!

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-08-29 14:32:36 UTC
I've had the same issue. Razor are well known for this.

Thankfully, a reasonably easy fix. Open it up and put a few drops of WD40 on the micro switches - enough for it to go inside them. This will fix it if it's not totally gone.

Google "double click wd40" and you'll find videos and loads of people saying it fixed it for them too.
ashley Eoner
#39 - 2012-08-29 18:05:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
Matriarch Prime wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
My trusty ilntellimouse explorer 3.0 has recently started acting up since the last major patch. The mouse works fine in all other games but will give me double clicks galore in eve. I end up flying off on accident when trying to single click something.

USB connection with XP operating system and the standard MS drivers.

Oddly when I swapped the intellimouse out with an old generic dynex mouse I no longer had double click issues in eve.


Definitely the mouse in your case, the intelimouse has a buggy switch which fails with surprising frequency. (More like fail like clockwork. :P) Download mousefix.exe. Follow the instructions, it is very easy, just drag it to your startup folder.

I found the original author.

http://www.danieljackson.co.uk/fun/old/

Follow the instructions. He has your free solution.
So while it works fine in MW3 COD Counter strike terra swtor rift and all my other games/computers it's definitely the mouse and not some sort of change in eve with the large patch?



Sturmwolke wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
My trusty ilntellimouse explorer 3.0 has recently started acting up since the last major patch. The mouse works fine in all other games but will give me double clicks galore in eve. I end up flying off on accident when trying to single click something.


Ditto, but old model USB Logitech mouse. I'm beginning to suspect the UI/GPU having issues with screen update refresh that it just screws up the mouse. Nothing conclusive atm, though.
Had difficulty dragging items, resizing window and uncontrolled double-clicking (when your intention is a single-click) for both left AND right buttons.

Any dev can answer if EVE's pointer function is a hardware or software cursor?
Yeah the issues extend into dragging resizing and etc.
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