Ships & Modules

In order to fit 2 1600 plates, you need 2 ACRs(If you intend on fitting a MWD, otherwise you'll have a bit less than 5k more EHP with an AB + 2 1600s) which makes your tank less than that of a 1600 + 800 plate Thorax since they can fit 3 Trimarks without fitting mods. The small gun + buffer Thorax really shined before the web nerf but it is still quite viable.

[Thorax, Bait lolol]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5

294 DPS, 53,684 EHP and 1,111m/s.

[Thorax, AB + 1600s]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

10MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5

Same DPS, 58,145 EHP and 442m/s(Unaffected by scrams though).

For the most part, you're deilvering good advice. I'd make the following small corrections:
- Missiles are generally pretty decent in frig fights because they have decent range and you can't get under them completely. But, their overall DPS is kinda low.
- AFs are kinda slow and have a fairly large sig radius by the standard of frigates.

But overall: yeah, good advice.

-Liang

If any of the t1 cruisers can reliably do this, it would be the EWAR ones.

Blackbird can be pretty nasty, and fit a decent tank.
Arbitrator can fit a very good active tank and surprising drone DPS.
Celestis can use damps to make non missile frigs be forced into close (blaster and web) range.

Not sure about the Minmatar one... or even what it is called. But since they speciallize in TPs... I doubt it.



Also, some possibles:
Stabber speed fit.
Thorax gank fit (with webs to hold whatever you catch down)
Vexor (great tank and drones)
Maller (small guns and nuets with mega tank)

[Caracal, RAGE]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Warrior II x2


This is based on quite of a bit of EFT warrior-ing, but hear me out. Assault frigs tend to be slower than other frigates. This loadout does *full* damage on any frig that doesn't have a base speed of higher than 1400 m/s. Webs bring the speed down low enough to do full damage, and the scram prevent MWD-ing. unless you're fighting some kind of heavily nano'd out jag, you will be putting out full "pure" damage on every volley. That equates to 241 DPS when overheating, which is much MUCH better than any other loadout I've experimented with, due to tracking concerns/explosion velocity concerns. The Caracal's bonuses work to downsized guns which makes it the ideal weapon platform for this. You will actually almost match a Harpy's tanking ability on an overheated ASB, WITH it's massive kinetic resistance. Of course, carry multiple ammo types and switch based on what you're facing. If you load Mjolnir Rage you'll wipe the floor with that hypothetic Harpy, even if it has a DCU and 2 anti-em screens on it.

Also, it's buffer is in the range of 32,000 EHP after first cycle, so it'll last a while.

Just don't blame me when you lose this lulz fit.

Edit: Christ now I wish I could use Caldari Cruisers with any degree of effectiveness. This fitting looks funny as hell for faction warfare.

Use one of those wexor fits, they're nasty.

lol

[Celestis, BUSHIDO]
Reactor Control Unit I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3

Keep medium blasters, and don't use a TE. You have plenty of tracking (slightly better than a standard-fit Vagabond's)-- you should hit for full damage with the two webs. Remember to not sit still -- align to the sun or some other object, or just start burning in some random direction. When they try to bail, of course, hit approach.

The only way to fit a medium neut without crippling the rest of the fit is to have AWU 5, take off the anti-em rig for an ancillary, and use a +3% powergrid implant.


Hawks can have up to a 1400 DPS burst tank.

Yeah, they deal damage to frigs as long as you aren't using Furies. Gotta be careful about AF resist holes though. Check out the kinetic tank available to Gallente/Caldari T2 frigs. :)

-Liang

Hehehe, this all sounds very fun! The current problem with cruisers is that most people see them as bad, so when I actually stumble across one on a older pilot, I've come to assume it's fit to troll frigates.

The best advice I've seen here is to really pay attention to the resist holes. At best, they'll probably be patched to ~50%, whereas the strongest resists can hit 90%.

Unless you're fighting a Jaguar, of course.

But in all seriousness, remember that they are still frigates, so neutralizers can really rain on their parade. Anything you can do to abuse your extra fitting resources is a good idea. Finally, try to remember to start a fight with your webs pre-heated, so you can begin to slow a target as it closes range and would be slowing down a bit anyways to get a good orbit.

why not?

[Caracal]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II

10MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150

'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Hornet II x2

Genos implants makes the fitt