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Dual Ancillary Shield Booster Everything
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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#1 - 2012-08-28 02:19:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
If you're not, then you're doing it wrong. I don't care what you're flying. I haven't made a fit in the last 3 months that wasn't Single or Dual ASB fit, even if it was meant to armor tank.

If this mod doesn't get nerfed/rebalanced with every other defensive system, then CCP's lost its mawbles.

Where I am.
Orzo Torasson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-28 02:22:05 UTC
It's been a long time since I've seen a non-ASB assault frigate fit in space.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#3 - 2012-08-28 02:37:37 UTC
Never used one.. Cool

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#4 - 2012-08-28 03:20:32 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:


If you're not, then you're doing it wrong. I don't care what you're flying. I haven't made a fit in the last 3 months that wasn't SingleDual ASB fit, even if it was meant to armor tank.

If this mod doesn't get nerfed/rebalanced with every other defensive system, then CCP's lost its mawbles.



They really aren't all they're cracked up to be.

As usual, alpha > active.
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-08-28 03:21:58 UTC
Where has this thread been all my life...

I was waiting before people got mad enough at their own failings on how to deal with ASB ships (aka fit one yourself duh!), that they would need to make a thread about it.

Ah sweet surrender.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#6 - 2012-08-28 03:22:26 UTC
ASB made big splash in the Alliance Tournament, I don't know if it's a different story in "the wild" though. Cool

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#7 - 2012-08-28 03:24:58 UTC
James 315 wrote:
ASB made big splash in the Alliance Tournament, I don't know if it's a different story in "the wild" though. Cool

I know someone was planning a ASB scorpion as bait for something. Surprise !

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Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#8 - 2012-08-28 03:27:17 UTC
Something tells me that this thread is actually a subtle plea to have ASBs nerfed.

The sound of the Amarrian heart
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#9 - 2012-08-28 03:32:29 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Bloodpetal wrote:


If you're not, then you're doing it wrong. I don't care what you're flying. I haven't made a fit in the last 3 months that wasn't SingleDual ASB fit, even if it was meant to armor tank.

If this mod doesn't get nerfed/rebalanced with every other defensive system, then CCP's lost its mawbles.



They really aren't all they're cracked up to be.

As usual, alpha > active.



Oh, well for sure.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14450710

That rupture was bleeding straight through to structure despite it's ub3rXLASB.

However, nothing a little buffer can't smooth out.

Where I am.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2012-08-28 03:39:20 UTC
For PVP skirmish they are handy, but I think you'd have a hard time convincing a mission runner that an ASB is better than a solid passive tank in something like Worlds collide (Or whatever it's called), where you are sitting and tanking for a half hour or so. I know my Rattlesnake deadspace runner will never have one fitted when I'm webbed, scrammed and neuted for the hour I'm in there hacking cans.

Mr Epeen Cool
Ensign X
#11 - 2012-08-28 04:37:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ensign X
Bloodpetal wrote:
If you're not, then you're doing it wrong. I don't care what you're flying. I haven't made a fit in the last 3 months that wasn't Single or Dual ASB fit, even if it was meant to armor tank.


Riiiight. Except for this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. And this. Roll

edit: Oh, and this one too.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#12 - 2012-08-28 04:46:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Ensign X wrote:
Bloodpetal wrote:
If you're not, then you're doing it wrong. I don't care what you're flying. I haven't made a fit in the last 3 months that wasn't Single or Dual ASB fit, even if it was meant to armor tank.


Riiiight. Except for this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. And this. Roll

edit: Oh, and this one too.


making a fit != flying a previously existing one.

that said, ASBs are still meh.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#13 - 2012-08-28 04:56:29 UTC
I think they should boost ASBs. Active tanking still isn't viable. :( :( :( :(

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#14 - 2012-08-28 05:12:55 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
I think they should boost ASBs. Active tanking still isn't viable. :( :( :( :(


you can buff active tanking all you want, high alpha will always trump it by design. so, basically, no.
Ensign X
#15 - 2012-08-28 05:18:18 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
making a fit != flying a previously existing one.

that said, ASBs are still meh.


Shocked
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#16 - 2012-08-28 05:28:31 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
I think they should boost ASBs. Active tanking still isn't viable. :( :( :( :(


you can buff active tanking all you want, high alpha will always trump it by design. so, basically, no.


I know!!! Active tanking just doesn't scale. It needs an even bigger buff. I think ASBs should have a 10 second reload time just like cap boosters!!

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Ayuren Aakiwa
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#17 - 2012-08-28 06:08:14 UTC
They may be a bit op in smaller scale situations with the blue pill but in that case your usually limited by your cargo bay with asb fits. So the longer the engagement the less useful your asb becomes so it really is not as broken as many seem to believe imo. In huge fleets it doesn't seem very viable but I rarely fly around with more than like 20 people so Question
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-08-28 07:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Liang Nuren wrote:
I know!!! Active tanking just doesn't scale. It needs an even bigger buff. I think ASBs should have a 10 second reload time just like cap boosters!!

You seem not to undestand what "by design" means. Even if you have insta reload and 9bil shield hp per ASB cycle, alpha is still > active tanking. Dual ASB scales pretty nicely in prolonged engagements until you run out of charges though.

Active tanks aren't supposed to be used in larger scale mess. ASBs seem to already cause trouble in smaller engagement though.

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Mildew Wolf
#19 - 2012-08-28 07:47:02 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:
I think they should boost ASBs. Active tanking still isn't viable. :( :( :( :(


you can buff active tanking all you want, high alpha will always trump it by design. so, basically, no.


I know!!! Active tanking just doesn't scale. It needs an even bigger buff. I think ASBs should have a 10 second reload time just like cap boosters!!



its not nice to tease the general discussion people. they dont know any better (((
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-08-28 08:03:29 UTC
Please let me enjoy an armor version of the ASB. Would be nice for Gallente blaster boats to be allowed to play the game again.
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