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Base out of empire for now and move into low sec once you know what you are doing. Also get a jumpfrieghter when you do move out there.

Definitely doable. You're just going to take your paranoia a step up if you're going to do some carebearing. Over time you'll learn the locals and their schedules: who's doing PI, who's passing through, who's trying to kill you.

Also, confirming that blockade runners are pretty much easy-mode for moving **** in low-sec. Big hauler for high-sec to low-sec boundary, blockade runner for ferrying the stuff in, as has been stated. If you don't have the skills/money for a 'runner, use the big hauler to get stuff close then fly the ships in one-by one. Or have a secondary low-sec boundary base until you get those skills. Nothing says you have to have all your **** in one place.

A: Get your exploration skills above lukewarm - there's good money in it. Also ratting is decent now that battleships spawn in lowsec. PI is good in lowsec as well.

B: Flying ships from market to base is SOP. Frigates are not usually hard to get through lowsec. Fit nanos or inertia stabilizers and perhaps a warp core stab for your "travel fit". Also, Priority #1 is a cloaky hauler for living in lowsec. Crane, Viator, Prowler, or the Amarr thing... one of life's most useful tools in lowsec.

C: Don't be afraid to talk with the locals. Some are friendly. Assume they aren't though. You might make allies down the road.


Solo lowsec is very doable. But make sure you know the docking mechanics, how to make insta-undock safe spots, and in general, how to play the game well.

Low sec living is easily done, it's just a matter of finding the right area.

Avoid faction warfare hot spots!
Look for low sec loops of 3-5 systems that are somewhat off the beaten path. (These are more common than you might think)
Make safe spots in each system.
Make insta-docks and undocks in any station you visit semi-regularly.

As stated above, train for a blockade runner to save you the hassle of utilizing Black Frog until later in life.
Learn to keep a keen eye on local, and be very familiar with d-scan.

Low sec also gives you the occasional rush when someone tries hunting you in an area you know intimately well. Lots of fun to be had

I have moved to low-sec a few times. The first real move was due to corp theft and a huge loss to me. More or less penniless I grabbed a cheap frigate and went out to make my life in low-sec. While I admit having higher skills that you currently do, moving things around was actually not so bad.

Since I started more or less broke I was belt-ratting and running L1 missions to start. Once I could afford a cruiser I made an L2 ship (on a side note, I was using the ‘lesser’ ships due to their lower prices like the Bellicose). I eventually purchased an industrial, fitting shield extenders and plugging resist holes in the mids and warp core stabs in the lows. Once I could afford it I fit cargo rigs on it. While no match for an organized gate camp (which you learn where they are, check the map for kills in 24 hrs and 1 hr) I flew away from many amateur ones. (side note, a T1 Mammoth will align 3 seconds faster than the T2 Mastodon, at a gate camp three seconds is a lifetime). It was what I used to run PI to markets to sell it.

This went on for a few weeks. I got to know some of the locals (even had one ASK if they could wardec me, talk about a ‘civil’ war). There was a Russian explorer that would leave me wrecks to salvage and we slip the profits (talk about a painful cut-n-paste Google session) and I made a point of avoiding a roaming French corp who only wanted to kill me. My first area eventually got overrun with a warring group of German vs Russian players. The second area was too highly travelled by the young players looking for ganks, and the last time was too empty (nobody around) only to get camped by incursions.

I keep considering returning to low sec. There is not a lot of point to bring a bunch of ships to an area until you are comfortable in it. I have always considered all my work in low-sec a loss and if I got the equipment out of there if was profit and bonus. I think I still have about half of my rag-tag fleet from the second trip sitting out there.

Yeah, same deal with me. I've played since Castor, and lived in the North where I helped hold space for several years. Left the game for a few years, and back running around high sec while I learn game mechanics again.

I would love to venture into 0.0 again and make my home, but I'm unable to dedicate myself to helping hold space, or giving to a corporation. yet.

When I lived in 0.0 that was a time to war, carebear, and explore. Everyone took their turns on patrols, mining, POS upkeep, etc.

I really had an enjoyable time of it, I hope you find what you're looking for, and I hope to be ready to devote myself to such an experience soon.

Issue A - Income
I got the impression that you are a miner. If this is correct, mining in high-sec will be your most reliable source of income. Do not even try mining in low-sec or null-sec, unless you have a buyer for the minerals or a Rorqual to jump what you mine back to high-sec.

If you want to focus on combat and exploration, work on your ability to run L4 missions first. Train for a mission-running battleship, such as an Abaddon, Dominix, Raven, or Maelstrom, and get your standings up to use the high-level agents.

Exploration is really a side-profession to being a combat pilot in New Eden. If you get lucky, you can make hundreds of millions of ISK in less than an hour; however, if you are not, you can lose a lot of ISK very quickly. Only worry about exploration, if you are looking for something to break the monotony of running missions, but not as a replacement to doing those things.

As for low-sec, exploration is better in low-sec. You will find more combat sites, rated DED complexes, and anomalies out there than you will ever find in high-sec; however, they are more difficult, and often require more than one person to complete in an efficient manner. (Unless you are an experiences, high skill-point pilot.)

When you get ready for exploration, the Helios and a Vexor- or the T2 variant, Ishtar -will make short work of most combat sites and anomalies. The Proteus, the Gallente Strategic Cruiser, would also be a good choice further down the road.

Issue B - Logistics
Just like other have suggested, train for and buy a Covert Ops Hauler, the Viator for Gallente pilots. If you get the process of cloaking as soon as you hit the warp button down, Covert Op Haulers are near impossible to gank in all but null-sec. This would be the ideal way of moving equipment in and out of low-sec, and even around high-sec these days.

If you are a miner, you'll obviously want to train for an Orca in high-sec, and eventually a Rorqual for low-sec and null-sec operations.

Combat pilots, who tend to find themselves bringing in and moving a lot of ships between high-sec and null-sec/low-sec will want to train for a Carrier, and are essential if you want to be self-sufficient in null-sec space; however, do not plan to fly one without about 6-8 months of training and a ton of ISK in the wallet.

Issue C - Cohabitants
No matter where you are in New Eden, do not trust that anybody will not shoot you, including your corp mates.

With that said, your best bet is to join a corporation that is well-established on their own or is in a well-established alliance. A lot of new player friendly corporations will not mind having you aboard, as long as you do not affect the corporation in a negative way, such as losing a lot of industrial ships to the same gate camp.

Most corporations/alliances that live in low-sec or null-sec will provide access to intelligence channels, so that you can be warned should a hostile entity approach your location; however, you will still be responsible for your own safety.

Be mindful of your surroundings. . . separate the "local" chat channel from the others, and place it where you can always see who is in the system with you. If there is someone that is not a part of your corporation or alliance in system, dock up, safe up, or move on to the next system.

Well, good luck.
-Shiganaru

If you don't like the risk/reward thing then I agree with you, if not then you're plain wrong. Low sec provides trillions of isk to be made by smart people.

The only way the average player can make more isk in high than low is with haulers/freighters/pimp mission boats ganks.

Low sec: lvl5 missions, why don't you run those? -tons of LP's per mission but yep, there's a risk.

Wait: Faction warfare, everyone will tell you know "fit a fast frig and go do sites, cash LP's and do about 500M//H"

Exploration:
-DED 5's and others vomiting B-C type stuffz worth billions, the guy behind his computer all day can easily do at least 3, knowing the average gain in ITEMS ONLY is in between 2 and around 5 Billions (depending also on rat type)
-Implants, skillbooks, items, advanced salvage, faction spawns worth at least 100x more than the poor faction frigate spawn in high sec, and more stuff to do.

So, the problem is not how to make isk in low sec, the problem is living there and not willing to take the risk because it's easier to perma camp some gate or station undock, then call high sec inhabitants "risk averse" but use CONCORD protection to camp high sec gates for ganks.

Just an opinion, like it or not but reflects quite good a lot of low sec inhabitants attitude, their paradise didn't became the waste land it is because it doesn't have enough isk to be made, this is the falsest statement ever about low sec.

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