Player Features and Ideas Discussion

the following excerpt is from a corpmate of mine who listed a problem with aggression timers to Seleene, CSM member.

My personal feeling is that if you are playing eve, ratting in a carrier in 0.0, and become so frightened by the appearance of neutrals in local that you reach down and pull the plug on your PC, you should be punished. This log off tactic is disruptive to the immersive nature of EVE and just really pathetic.

Aggression mechanics:
Now, when something like a carrier is ratting in null, a neutral pops in, carrier pilot logs out, pointed by rats, carrier still there. Neutral gets point, fleet warps in. The carrier disappears.
This has happened to me and people I know multiple times. Instead of trying to reduce afk ratting in capitals by changing other game mechanics, you could change the aggression mechanic so that if a point from a player is on the carrier before it disappears, it stays there. There would be much less afk ratting out of fear from losing the thing as opposed to making it hard. This is also a bot issue as well. 9/10 bots just log as soon as they see a neutral in system.
[–]PandasxGallente 2 points 3 days ago
Yes, I have a story to go along with this...
In lowsec, we see someone pop into local and a Moros on scan, we undock multiple ships, but the character leaves local before we see anything. Moros still on scan, we see it land with no pilot in it, and we start laying into it, but after 2 minutes it disappears. Same kind of thing.
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[–]Moderninferno 1 point 3 days ago
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
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[–]Seleene[S] 1 point 3 days ago*
I.. thought this was fixed?? But even if it is, assuming I'm understanding your question / issue, personally I think the 'logoff timer' should / could be tied to the mass of the ship. Frigates vanish in 2 mins, Titans... longer. Maybe something like that. v0v

this is only valid if you aggroed the victim before he logged off. Once he logged off without aggression, he's safe.

Log off timer based on mass should be implemented.

There's no easy fix to this when you consider disconnects, but having the timer tied to mass would be a step in the right direction.

I'd like to reiterate that the log off tactic is abused so frequently that I've seen it multiple times in the outer reaches of null in ratting pockets, pipes, you name it. Getting a tackle on a carrier ratting with your friends one jump behind only to have it disappear right in front of you is really annoying.