Missions & Complexes

This was written by me and me alone with the intention of solidifying all Incursion Communities.

Having said that, those of you who are not prive to what's been going on have written: 1. Too much politics, 2. Who are you to write this, 3. Incursions are unrealistic, 4. ISN are griefers, 5. TVP acts like they can run things. I will answer some of these now:

1. True. Why? The big name channels have enough of a pilot base to have free reign over almost every AS and HQ site, while also usually being the first group ready to "pop" the MOM. Initially, there was an agreement made out with rotations signed by most of the better-known communities. This agreement has since been broken and instead of trying to fix it, things were pushed further towards chaos. Everyday, high-sec incursion runner has been forced to pick up and move because it was decided that having only one high-sec incursion available at any given time would ensure certain communities would have little to no say. Supposedly, this would hurt the isk/hour ratio of the marked community. However, one of the last incursions had 6 of 9 top LP earners coming from that marked community, proving what is actually being accomplished is trolling and griefing every EVE Online incursion runner. This arguing and assumption needs to stop, as it now affects everyone.

2. Who I am to write this is a mature, non-biased pilot, with only the incursion public in mind. I have spoken directly to channel CEOs both involved and not involved to get an idea of the main issues they have witnessed.

3. Unrelated.

4 and 5. The few do not truly represent the whole.





0. INTRODUCTION TO CHANNELS:
a. The Valhalla Project (TVP) - An Incursion Community focused on shield tanked ships. Accepts any and all pilots willing to listen and learn, with regards to ship fits and fleet mechanics. Intended for any shield focused pilot, without bias.

b. The Ditanian Fleet (TDF) - An Incursion Community focused on armor tanked ships. Also accepts any and all pilots willing to listen and learn, with regards to ship fits and fleet mechanics. Intended for any armor focused pilot, without bias.

c. Incursion Shiny Network (ISN) - An Incursion Community focused on shield tanked ships, with the addition of ISK Per Hour being the fundamental strategy. Accepts pilots capable of flying specific ships, fit in a specific way, for the sake of efficiency and speed. Must be willing to listen and learn, with regards to ship fits and fleet mechanics.

1. MOM ROTATION:
a. The Valhalla Project (TVP), The Ditanian Fleet (TDF), Incursion Shiny Network (ISN), followed by "Community X."
b. All MOM Rotation slots are subject to "Contest."

1a. COMMUNITY X:
aa. Community X defined as any other willing Incursion Community with sufficient pilot numbers able to field a full SCOUT, VANGUARD, ASSAULT, and HEADQUARTERS fleet at the same time (roughly 70 pilots minimum) during their respective Incursion Community's Peak Playtime Hours.

1b. CONTEST:
aa. If any Incursion Community is incapable of fielding a full MOM fleet (at least 60 pilots) by the designated "Courtesy Time Frame," a welcomed and acceptable Contest shall be allowed, which may include any and all EVE Online Communities capable of fielding a full MOM fleet, regardless of MOM Rotation.

1a. COURTESY TIME FRAME:
aa. A Courtesy Time Frame of 10 - 12 hours after the Incursion site has began Withdrawing. This Courtesy Time Frame is to allow all the Incursion Community to move themselves to the next high-sec Incursion site. If no new high-sec Incursion site is available upon reaching Courtesy Time Frame, then Courtesy Time Frame will be pushed back until an available high-sec Incursion site spawns.

2. NON-MOM SITES:
a. Non-Rotational free-for-all. Any EVE Online Incursion Community, despite Agreement signatory status. Contests are welcomed when done in Good Faith.

3. PROPAGANDA:
a. All Incursion Communities must agree to use no forms of Propaganda to belittle, harass, misinform, disrespect, falsely accuse, or otherwise deface or defame any other Incursion Community.

4. BAN LISTS:
a. Any and all Ban Lists must be updated to remove no longer necessary character names, corporations, and/or alliances; updated Ban Lists are to be made available as public domain.

5. NINJA LOOTERS AND GRIEFERS:
a. All Incursion Communities (labeled "Incursion Runners Community," here on IRC) must cease and desist Ninja Looting MOM Site Drops and the overall Griefing of Incursion sites.

1a. Incursion Runners Community (IRC):
aa. IRC is defined as all Incursion Communities willing and able to sign this Agreement, despite having the pilot numbers to gain a MOM Rotation slot.

ab. IRC should include a Panel of channel CEOs (labeled "Chief Executive Panel," here on CEP) which should also include Third Party "Civilian" members acting as their respective Community's Diplomat (labeled "Community 'Civilian' Diplomat," here on CCD).

1a. CCDs are to be chosen by either their respective Incursion Community as a whole or by IRC's CEP, in Good Faith.
1b. CCD's purpose is to help discuss and share view points which may be missed by IRCs CEP and be in no way biased toward any one community.

6. MOM SITE DROPS:
a. MOM Site Drops are the sole property of the victors of MOM Site, which will be internally decided upon by the victor's Incursion Community CEOs as to how to handle MOM Site Drops, or by agreement of IRCs CEP, in Good Faith.

7. DECISION MAKING:
a. No decisions can be made by any one Incursion Community, whether in Good Faith or not, without IRCs CEP being given the opportunity, with full Due-Diligence, to give opinion on the matter.

A very well done and interesting post.

Let's see what come's of it.

/signed

sincerely, the only group to ever get the revenant BPC drops

nice to see a Goon sign this :)

you don't need to count us as a signatory

Solidify incursion communities by reaching out and working with them directly. I really doubt they want to collaborate on a public forum. Politics for subsets of the EVE universe can't get molded well here.

With that said, worry about how to even get the MOM loot before you divide it up. :)

Doubt that statement, judging from the timestamps of the replies.
It's definitely written to force a hand on someone's part when you air drama into the public eye.



With the above, you have 2 shield groups vs 1 armor group, plus one wildcard. Channels are never mixed for a practical reason.
To agree to the above would mean one nail to the armor group's coffin and further consolidate shield player numbers.

The simpler approach is to alternate evenly between armor and shield.
Armor group (TDF) or any future armor group splinters will deal with taking turns within the allocated armor rotation slot.
Shield group (TVP and ISN) or any future shield group splinters will deal with taking turns within the allocated shield rotation slot

That preserves the balance betweeen armor and shield.

everyone in the fleet can shoot the looters, they just all have to be in the same corp

Don't think Ive ever heard of a HI SEC Incursion MOM fleet were all members are in the same corp... even the ones Brick & Goons had had peeps in the same alliance but not in same corp so if NINJA looters where shot Concord kill most in the fleetthat tried to scram them

generally if that was the case there were enough dudes from any given corp to kill a ninja looter

on one hand, hisec incursion runners have to deal with *gasp* suicide blackbirds and ninja looters while lowsec dudes had to deal with things like R&K cynos going up the moment the mothership was popped, gangs coming by looking for kills, gate rats and other such things

naturally the hisec incursion runners are in need of more immunity