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New Ship Idea: Light Carrier
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Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-08-22 02:47:46 UTC
Is it a good idea for the tiercide of the battleships???

or a better dominix?

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Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-08-22 03:05:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Dennis Gregs
A better Dominix would be the best solution if you ask me. The current T2 Dominix variant (Sin) is simply worthless for anything other than its very specific niche and that sucks because us drone lovers just don't have any solution other than going for Rattlesnake... which uses missiles and shield tanking and is totally different than Gallente ships in general.

I'd say either a new Tier 2 variant fo Dominix (something closer to a Marauder) or maybe a Serpentis Dominix (I've killed a ton of Core Port Admirals, but I'm sure there are some more Serpentis Dominix out there ;) ), preferably both, would be nice.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-08-22 12:39:08 UTC
Balor Haliquin wrote:
In respect to the first quote i would love to see your fit for a 1500-1700 DPS battleship for 200mil with a decent buffer. The Abaddon can manage 1100 DPS at 15km at best with a great set of skills and a very good buffer tank (160k EHP). A gank Archon can manage 2.2mil EHP with 1000 DPS at up to 150km range. So giving a ship 500DPS at 100km and around 500,000 EHP seems to a be a lot more balanced to me.

I'm not sure i actually said the second thing but I'm open to ideas. The one thing i want to make sure of is that the sips can not be everything a battleship is but better. These ships sacrifice their cap stability and DPS output for combat versatility in their drones and a good solid tank.


The second quote was from a different pilot in this thread, sorry for the missquote.

As far as fits I don't have the exact mods handy as I'm not home but I can give some basic info atm off the top of my head. First I said that the 1250 dps battleship was doable under 200, that ship is a geddon with t2 megapulse lassers with conflag and I want to say 130k ehp. The 1500+ dps is a sheild tanked blaster hyperion with t2 large neutrons with void loaded (also can do over 800m/s btw) and has around 90k ehp if I remeber right. Both the above ships have high drone skills and a flight of t2 ogres in the dps numbers and didn't use any faction or deadspace mods.
Balor Haliquin
White Wolf Dragoons
#24 - 2012-08-26 14:39:37 UTC
Okay, the argument for a mini carrier based off the Dominix has been used for many years now and they all seem to run into the same issue. The Dominix is a battleships at its core. In order to make the Dominix something remotely carrier like means radically changing the platform. In the end it seems to end up being more like a capital then a sub capital.

In my opinion a carrier needs to have at least 3 things. First they need to have the ability to use fighters, second they need to be able to use some of the capital systems that are available, and finally the primary role of the carrier is some form of support. For the Fleet Carrier (the current base carrier) is the remote repair and the use of fighter anywhere in the system. For the Super Carrier they have the ability to use fighter bombers and the remote ECM burst. Both can use warfare links to support their fleet with no bonus. So what should an Escort Carrier have?

So an Escort Carrier needs to be able to do long range logistics bit not to the degree of a Fleet Carrier. It should have fighter control but not to the same level as the Fleet Carrier or even the Super Carrier. So no bonus control per level for fighters. So limiting its logistical capacity and fighter capacity.

I just don't see the Dominix as an appropriate platform for anything but a battleship in EVE. I can completely understand why people would like to see it as a mini carrier because its the closest thing we have to one.
Mishtkrah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-08-26 19:54:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mishtkrah
Buy a domi.

EDIT: Why do we need fighters in High Sec? For missioning? For wars? I see no need for them.
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