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The reality - miners make 60+m isk per hour of gameplay
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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-25 02:09:48 UTC
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.

I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.

So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.

Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-08-25 02:21:49 UTC
If you can clear a mission in 10-15 minutes and get a good return on your LP then 60 million an hour is possible, but much more demanding in terms of SP, ship cost, and attention.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-25 02:51:31 UTC
Anya Ohaya wrote:
If you can clear a mission in 10-15 minutes and get a good return on your LP then 60 million an hour is possible, but much more demanding in terms of SP, ship cost, and attention.


It's extra funny when serious replies basically miss the point by a country mile.
Ginger Barbarella
#4 - 2012-08-25 03:39:31 UTC
You want to talk reality? OK, how's this? I bill $150 US$ per hour to work on stuff for my clients on the side. I do that while AFK mining. What do I make in one hour? $150/$35 per GTC = 4 GTC (rounded down) = 8 PLEX, per HOUR.

That's reality. Now, go back to your example, please.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-08-25 03:54:03 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.

I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.

So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.

Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?

So 10m/hour
10mill/60min
166666.6isk/min
10 min active = 1666666.6isk/10min
166666.6isk/min*60min=10mill/hour

Sound to me like so done needs to focus more on there homework and less on eve

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-08-25 03:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaivar Lancer
Omnathious Deninard wrote:


So 10m/hour
10mill/60min
166666.6isk/min
10 min active = 1666666.6isk/10min
166666.6isk/min*60min=10mill/hour

Sound to me like so done needs to focus more on there homework and less on eve


7/10 for you, as I was going to go out for lunch but you've compelled me to reply.

And thus I bold the relevant points in my original post.

Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.

I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.

So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.

Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?


Just so people can follow the basic maths:

10m isk / 10 active minutes = 1m isk per active minute

60 active minutes of mining = 60 * 1m isk per active minute = 60m isk per active hour

So for every hour I spend clicking and scanning asteroids, moving cargo, warping and other forms of ACTIVE mining-related gameplay, I make 60m isk.
Javajunky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-25 04:05:18 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
You want to talk reality? OK, how's this? I bill $150 US$ per hour to work on stuff for my clients on the side. I do that while AFK mining. What do I make in one hour? $150/$35 per GTC = 4 GTC (rounded down) = 8 PLEX, per HOUR.

That's reality. Now, go back to your example, please.


It's great - I run the mining fleet in empire when Im working from the home office. Love the productivity Big smileBig smile
Ginger Barbarella
#8 - 2012-08-25 04:33:39 UTC
Javajunky wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
You want to talk reality? OK, how's this? I bill $150 US$ per hour to work on stuff for my clients on the side. I do that while AFK mining. What do I make in one hour? $150/$35 per GTC = 4 GTC (rounded down) = 8 PLEX, per HOUR.

That's reality. Now, go back to your example, please.


It's great - I run the mining fleet in empire when Im working from the home office. Love the productivity Big smileBig smile


This. :)

(PS: first time I've ever agreed with a Goonie!)

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Amrumm
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-08-25 07:48:02 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.



So you are distracting yourself with a game while you should be studying? Your parents must be so proud of you. Lucky for you there will be plenty of time for minimum wage internships after you complete your studies so you can bring your real-life skills up to a decent level.
Totally Trustworthy
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-08-25 08:25:16 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.

I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.

So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.

Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?

You're a ******* moron. The strips cycle at the same speed whether you're at the keyboard or not. You don't magically increase your mining if you become "active". You earn 10mil per hour, period. Idiot.
Beta Stryker
Yet Another Holding Corporation
#11 - 2012-08-25 08:50:23 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:


So 10m/hour
10mill/60min
166666.6isk/min
10 min active = 1666666.6isk/10min
166666.6isk/min*60min=10mill/hour

Sound to me like so done needs to focus more on there homework and less on eve


7/10 for you, as I was going to go out for lunch but you've compelled me to reply.

And thus I bold the relevant points in my original post.

Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.

I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.

So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.

Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?


Just so people can follow the basic maths:

10m isk / 10 active minutes = 1m isk per active minute

60 active minutes of mining = 60 * 1m isk per active minute = 60m isk per active hour

So for every hour I spend clicking and scanning asteroids, moving cargo, warping and other forms of ACTIVE mining-related gameplay, I make 60m isk.


Too bad the rest of those 50, inactive, minutes count in reality. Pesky !@#$ers.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-25 08:53:44 UTC
Amrumm wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.



So you are distracting yourself with a game while you should be studying? Your parents must be so proud of you. Lucky for you there will be plenty of time for minimum wage internships after you complete your studies so you can bring your real-life skills up to a decent level.


Thanks! There's another guy in this thread who charges clients $150/hr to AFK mine. I think I have found my calling. Thank you, Eve Community. Big smile
Zoltan Lazar
#13 - 2012-08-25 23:00:14 UTC
You would get your work done faster if you concentrated 100%- for most people, around 1.5x faster minimum. (many people go as high as 2.5x faster) More attention-intensive activities will make far more isk using that extra time than you would splitting your attention.
Herman Klaus
Touched By Klaus
#14 - 2012-08-26 00:58:55 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
You would get your work done faster if you concentrated 100%- for most people, around 1.5x faster minimum. (many people go as high as 2.5x faster) More attention-intensive activities will make far more isk using that extra time than you would splitting your attention.


Blitz a Level 5 mission and get 50-60m with rewards and LP in about 10 mins, never mind an hour.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#15 - 2012-08-26 01:02:58 UTC
If I really wanted to, I could probably munch up about 300M per hour ease.

If I where to go back doing what I usto do, Station trading penny wars etc, I could probably pull off 1B per hour on the weekends (select times of course)
Penwarden
Corefire Industries
#16 - 2012-08-26 05:10:32 UTC
Kinda meaningless, if you ask me.
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-26 07:41:44 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.

The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.

I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.

So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.

Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?


Pretty STUPID reasoning there, mate.

That's like measuring the income per hour of missioning by taking into account only the final shots that kill every rat and the second it takes to click on "complete mission" and cash in. It's plain WRONG. That way, everybody makes a BILLION per hour running missions, right?
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
#18 - 2012-08-26 12:35:52 UTC
Using the OP's logic, I can say I make about 400 mil/hour doing science. He's obviously not studying math.

[/sarcasm]
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-08-26 14:43:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaivar Lancer
Nyreanya wrote:
Using the OP's logic, I can say I make about 400 mil/hour doing science. He's obviously not studying math.


When you go to work, do you add travel time when calculating your $/hr from your job? No? Why is that?

The same logic applies for calculating isk/hr when mining. For 10 mins of "work" (mouse-clicking etc), I earn 10m isk. The other 50 minutes, I don't do anything mining-related.

That's like working 10 minutes, going home for 50 minutes to jack off, then coming back to work for another 10 minutes. Rinse and repeat.

This is common sense. But then again, this is EVE, the home of aspies.
Stigman Zuwadza
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-08-26 15:53:07 UTC
I earn about 160m'ish an hour staring at my window blinds and listening to my ceiling fan. Big smile

Sometimes I mix that up with grabbing a coffee and having a smoke. Big smile

Fly safe. o7

It's broken and it's been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come.
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