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Bring actual stealth to recon. Being cloaked removes you from local unless you speak.
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Vito Tattaglia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-08-25 04:06:01 UTC
Simply put, if you cloak, you are removed from the Local chat list unless you broadcast a message, similar to the way Wormhole local is done. This has the benefit of including stealth into recon missions, so you don't show up in local the second you enter a system, making spies actually sneaky. It also removes the issue of AFK Cloaking, which puts a lot of null sec players on edge.
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-08-25 05:35:08 UTC
Old idea but I think it needed to be reposted, +1

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CaleAdaire
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#3 - 2012-08-25 05:38:31 UTC
I like your way of thinking.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-25 05:43:28 UTC
well at least this way people wont be afraid of the terror known as "The AFK Cloaker"

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-08-25 08:07:45 UTC
make local delayed in lowsec
you do not appear unless you been in system for more then 3 mins. :D
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-08-25 08:35:49 UTC
No.

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Captain Robby
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-25 08:50:49 UTC
Nope next your be asking to fire wile cloaked stealth bombers can already wipe out a fleet even if they appear in local stop trying to get even more easyer kill mails...
Herold Oldtimer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-08-25 08:56:39 UTC
The only ship I could agree to this for, would be a ship without any offensive modules.
L4ST
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-08-25 09:39:55 UTC  |  Edited by: L4ST
"elitist pvp" cloaky fags w/o fleet are taking easy KMs only, youre not the pros and you choose the easy way of getting high ISK KMs already, stop spamming the forums.

Play cloaky in lowsec and youre fine, nobody gives a **** about local already full of neutrals. Can't get easy kills there? Oh, you poor little just-found-out-that-EVE-is-hard sod
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-08-25 09:41:12 UTC
Herold Oldtimer wrote:
The only ship I could agree to this for, would be a ship without any offensive modules.

Okay, maybe then. Because otherwise, being able to decloak on a ratter, point him, and cyno in a fleet would become really overpowered.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-25 09:45:54 UTC
there's a reason why this is a really bad idea but i'll leave it to you to figure it out!

hint: "-100% targeting delay after decloaking"

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#12 - 2012-08-25 11:15:43 UTC
Vito Tattaglia wrote:
Simply put, if you cloak, you are removed from the Local chat list unless you broadcast a message, similar to the way Wormhole local is done. This has the benefit of including stealth into recon missions, so you don't show up in local the second you enter a system, making spies actually sneaky. It also removes the issue of AFK Cloaking, which puts a lot of null sec players on edge.
I actually think this would be way too OP and needs more in the way of balance. It gives cloakers too much of an edge, without any sacrifice.

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#13 - 2012-08-25 12:10:56 UTC
i have no issue with ships fitted with a "COV-OPS" cloak being removed from local list while it is activated, i mean thats what cov ops is ment to do right, be stealthy and all that.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#14 - 2012-08-25 13:18:01 UTC
Like cloaking faggotry needs further promotion What?

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tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
#15 - 2012-08-25 14:43:11 UTC
I'd think the approach of a module that can only be activated while cloaked that also has a fuel cost would be more ideal than just letting one disappear from local, especially if it uses a precious highslot.

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McOboe
Viscosity
#16 - 2012-08-25 14:50:51 UTC
-1. Cloaking does not need a buff.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-08-25 16:14:03 UTC
While this makes sense, and sounds good

It would be abused in some really REALLY lame ways.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-08-25 16:18:17 UTC
Basically removing local, or giving ANY buff to cloakers will upset the already unbalanced risk v reward in eve.

The most you can make in null for an average pilot in an average alliance is running anoms, in either an extremely pimped battleship or carrier, you can make as much as 120m an hour.

Factors that make 120m an hour almost unachievable in nullsec are

1. Afk cloakers (we cant run anoms because there is a very real chance of them hot dropping anyone running anoms)
they can cause downtime for days at a time
2. roving gangs (not as unlikely and usually only a minor problem, very hard for them to catch someone)
3.CTA and having to defend our own space (atleast a few times a week)

Nullsec for the average pilot in an average alliance is profitable but only marginally when compared to the safety of hisec mining, incursions and missioning.


SO ANY CHANGE that makes ganking and catching nullsec pilots any easier, would simply lead to more nullsec pilots leaving nullsec. I personally was a nullsec pilot until recently I started running incursions and I love doing them. Incredibly easy, lots of isk and virtually no risk..



So unless nullsec gets alot more appealing I wont be going back, and if the rewards get boosted in nullsec then the market will be inflated by huge alliances who have systems so locked down that they are virtually hi sec systems.