Warfare & Tactics

Cap contested level at 100%
No LP for vulnerable systems
Small LP reward for D-plexing (1/4th or 1/5th of offensive plexing)

The entire issue with the current system is that there's an incentive to keep a vulnerable system that way without flipping it and almost no incentive to decontest it. Fix that and maybe the amarrians will stop /wrist-ing all over this forum.

...but tbh i really have my doubts about that last bit.

I'm not sure how rewarding people for plexing in systems that the enemy can't even dock would encourage pvp.

it is just about willing to do it.

remove pve completely from FW, it should be all about shooting each other ( basically rvb except mostly in low and some LP rewards for killing each other)

The only reason this would still be farmed after these changes is because people would still be able to hide while plexing and because you would let people farm syste systems where the enemy can't even dock.

The only three changes that need to happen are:

1) some sort of timer count back if you warp out or leave the radius when a wt arrives
2) make it so people know when plexes are attacked so there is no more hiding
3) make it so you can run the bigger plexes in a pvp ship. No one even tries to do it anymore but if you do take a bc in you will find that probably would not want to start a pvp fight with the minmatar rats shooting at you.

Those three changes and the problem of farming is solved.

That said i think most of your other ideas are good and should be implemented too.

Says the month-old farming alt with a 0-4 record in unarmed, stabbed Rifters:

[url]http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Bizzaro+Stormy+MurphDog#losses[/url]



...and no, having half a dozen players running around and camping gates in the vain hope of catching a single farming alt isn't realistic or viable.

It is pve, because you let it become pve instead of pvp. You are occupied by how to farm more LP instead of how to defend systems. This means you just give up and my plexing pvp experience is reduced to "victory because opponent resigned".

You sir, you are an idiot.

If you are not pants on head ********, get a little crazy, something, there is literally 0 chance of death while plexing; unless you jump into a massive resebo fleet and are unlucky or impatient.

1: Equip cloak /wcs
2: Mid-warp safe to first plex
3: Warp to 10km, Gate slide inbound if camped
4: Dscan is your friend. Even if you're in a cloaky hunter, I will see you on 1m km dscan when you decloak to take gate and I will be gone before you land
5: Warp to safe, cloak, wait.
6: Come through gate, find camp, wat do? Align/Cloak/Cycle Prop mod, float away from camp/gate, if you're decloaked, you're already aligned, warp, you'll probably make it out alive.
7: Warp to celestial at 70-100km near Complex from your midwarp safe, Dscan plex before warp to if hostiles in system.
8: In the case of a major plex with hostile in system, keep an asteroid belt as your selected item (preferably in a nest of asteroid belts [so your attacker cannot reasonably guess your actual destination]), if a recon decloaks, spam warp while their targeting systems reactivate(in the case where they were per-emptively camping a major before you arrived in system)

There is no way to effectively shut down a plex alt/plexer for an extended period of time if you do not awox them. If you were going to try to though, you would need: Fast tackle on every accel gate and beacon in every plex in the system. Non-regional gate exits on every gate in the system, and interceptors with scan res bonuses and 3 points that hit to 40km.

Even then, even if you had 9-12 pilots committed to stopping or halting the progress of the plexer, there are no guarantees you'll be successful. The can easily be in a merlin with 2 wcs, and a cloak; they cloak before you lock and idle away from the gate in a new system, or just warp off through your points..

Then, they're also free to just warp 3-5 systems away and do the same thing while you try to find them. Lets just say each faction has about 40 plexing alts running at any time (which is a low number, lets be honest), this means each side would need about 360 pilots willing to chase them to be able to stop any real progress, 23/7.. how long, if you could convince people to be that masochistic to even attempt this, do you think that would last?

Even doing the same thing yourself is more appealing than chasing the little bastards..

Sometimes I wonder if the Devs even really play the game anymore or they are too busy focused on the next project.


Farming has gone from incursion to FW to ....... its all still pve.