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Its finally happend: ccp killed amarr/minm fw fun

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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#261 - 2012-08-24 03:21:47 UTC
Xolve wrote:
those '**** fit thrashers' you guys keep talking about


OK everybody, show of hands: who here has had anything to say about '**** fit thrashers'?

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OK, come on, don't be shy. Look at little Xolve there, he has his hand high and proud. Raise your hands if '**** fit thrashers' has been a subject of conversation for you.

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OK, seriously. Now I'm getting mad. Stop looking at me like you're confused! I've heard things about you lot! I know you talk about this!

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Class dismissed. Get out of my sight.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#262 - 2012-08-24 06:52:28 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
I mean you swapped over zarnak, why did you swap over? probably because you were one of the few that actually liked to challenge yourself instead of being in the x*SFI, y*blackbird, z*whateverelse fleets that outnumber and outclass everyone.

almity or someone even mentioned that their pilots fly ruptures against SFI blobs because that's the only thing IO/LNA does consistently well at. outnumber the enemy with SFI/ECM and call everyone pussies for running.


We fought them, regardless as to what numbers we had- and even though we took heavy thrasher losses, we always came out ahead in overall damage done.

All it takes is a few brave recon pilots (or blackbirds and griffins) and a horde of those '**** fit thrashers' you guys keep talking about. We found a way around it, with 4m SP alts... crying blob and staying docked is just a cop out for 'I can't think of a logical way to harass my enemy'.


Whole FW is easier when you realize that FW is more than fight in one system.

Amarr has always had same problem, they try to fight for one or two systems at same time.

If you attack whole area at same time, no one is going to blob all of you, some of you may get raped but others can do their job freely.
Hi Lighter
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#263 - 2012-08-24 08:06:34 UTC
U alright maud bro I went to fall Caldari seems to be like amarr minmater before change :p glad I or out when I did I knew this would happen bout 2 months before inferno
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#264 - 2012-08-24 08:33:17 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
Class dismissed. Get out of my sight.


I like to angry you.
jjohnpaul xvii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#265 - 2012-08-24 09:56:17 UTC  |  Edited by: jjohnpaul xvii
WTS > 'Novelty' Daniel Carter Murray, Kuehnalt and Sync Vir toons

Training:
- Delicious tears without input/comedy/relevance to forum posts Specialist Level 5.
- Repetition Level 4.
- Advanced Butthurt Level 7.
- Tin Haterry Level 5.
- In dire need of intelligence/charisma remap.


WTB > Agony.
Dan Carter Murray
#266 - 2012-08-24 10:24:19 UTC
jjohnpaul xvii wrote:
WTS > 'Novelty' Daniel Carter Murray, Kuehnalt and Sync Vir toons

Training:
- Delicious tears without input/comedy/relevance to forum posts Specialist Level 5.
- Repetition Level 4.
- Advanced Butthurt Level 7.
- Tin Haterry Level 5.
- In dire need of intelligence/charisma remap.


WTB > Agony.


WTB jjohnpaul xvii's family jewels
Last seen: never
Known associates: defo not any women
Description: cries a lot, has ridiculous sounding whiny accent, butthurt so may walk like a duck
Age: can't be more than 16
Sex: virgin

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#267 - 2012-08-24 10:25:08 UTC
jjohnpaul xvii wrote:
WTS > 'Novelty' Daniel Carter Murray, Kuehnalt and Sync Vir toons

Training:
- Delicious tears without input/comedy/relevance to forum posts Specialist Level 5.
- Repetition Level 4.
- Advanced Butthurt Level 7.
- Tin Haterry Level 5.
- In dire need of intelligence/charisma remap.


WTB > Agony.


Offering 100 SFIs (know how much amarr love them) for DCM, I assume i make the payment to MasterNerdGuy?
Dan Carter Murray
#268 - 2012-08-24 10:27:34 UTC
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
jjohnpaul xvii wrote:
WTS > 'Novelty' Daniel Carter Murray, Kuehnalt and Sync Vir toons

Training:
- Delicious tears without input/comedy/relevance to forum posts Specialist Level 5.
- Repetition Level 4.
- Advanced Butthurt Level 7.
- Tin Haterry Level 5.
- In dire need of intelligence/charisma remap.


WTB > Agony.


Offering 100 SFIs (know how much amarr love them) for DCM, I assume i make the payment to MasterNerdGuy?


Contract tonight, I biomass upon accepting contract

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com

Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Wild Geese.
#269 - 2012-08-24 11:11:38 UTC
Just one thing to say... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Director

Sefem Velox

INGAME CHANNEL: Sefem Public

Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#270 - 2012-08-31 00:36:08 UTC
there is a war and someone is losing? can't be!
Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#271 - 2012-08-31 02:01:12 UTC
Waaaaaahhhh

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#272 - 2012-08-31 05:41:03 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
Whole FW is easier when you realize that FW is more than fight in one system.

Amarr has always had same problem, they try to fight for one or two systems at same time.

If you attack whole area at same time, no one is going to blob all of you, some of you may get raped but others can do their job freely.

Because up until recently, Amarr had to use gangs to plex anything other than minor's.

We harbingers of justice, light and goodwill towards man were not thrust into the war with a silver spoon in our mouths like the three other sides were .. we've had to actually work for our gains.
Of course now its just a Farm War so it makes little if any difference, but I fully expect the divide'n'conquor paradigm to be used when/if things change and Amarr get to keep the ability to plex on even terms with all the Slaves-in-Waiting.
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#273 - 2012-08-31 07:50:14 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Whole FW is easier when you realize that FW is more than fight in one system.

Amarr has always had same problem, they try to fight for one or two systems at same time.

If you attack whole area at same time, no one is going to blob all of you, some of you may get raped but others can do their job freely.

Because up until recently, Amarr had to use gangs to plex anything other than minor's.

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No. I solod all kind of plexes before Inferno. You just had to use the right ship. It was entirely possibly for one player to run 4 Minmatar plexes at the same time. BearBearBearBear (even with t1 weaponry)
As usual, BM is 100% right. If you people would have fought instead of forum posting, and blogging and sitting in Kamela and having armor BS fleets Lol Amarr would have never lost so many territory. And then Inferno doesn't mean Minmatar T4 store to begin with, all those people would not have made Minmatar farmer alts, and there were still a great war. But of course running missions for Minmatar militia, waiting for pvp on silver plate and generally doing nothing was more important for 99% of Amarr Militia. Evil
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#274 - 2012-08-31 08:13:15 UTC
Farmville in lowsec it may be, but there's a lot to be said for being on the Amarr militia side right now.

- you can undock, fly one or two jumps, hit d-scan and make buttloads of LP's with a capstable orbiting toon. Then complain you can't do massive "tier 5 push" like Minmatar which is to say, you can make much more, easier, just convert it to ISK at a lower ratio. Waah.
- you can cry like a baby about how the minmatar are OP/heartless joykillers/winning/fags/losers/better than you. Waah.
- you can undock and fly anywhere and find a person to blow up, confident 70% of minmatar are farmer alts scraping LP together for the next "big push to T5" (mentioned every 2 minutes BY LAW in Militia chat, I swear to god), or sitting in Hek/Rens/Bosboger AFK, so the people actually undocked are looking for a fight. Waah.
- you can blob like all get-out and claim "its the only way we can win". Waah.
- Eve-O forums are your great elephant burial ground for all your failings in life.

Waah.
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
#275 - 2012-08-31 10:22:34 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Farmville in lowsec it may be, but there's a lot to be said for being on the Amarr militia side right now.

- you can undock, fly one or two jumps, hit d-scan and make buttloads of LP's with a capstable orbiting toon. Then complain you can't do massive "tier 5 push" like Minmatar which is to say, you can make much more, easier, just convert it to ISK at a lower ratio. Waah.
- you can cry like a baby about how the minmatar are OP/heartless joykillers/winning/fags/losers/better than you. Waah.
- you can undock and fly anywhere and find a person to blow up, confident 70% of minmatar are farmer alts scraping LP together for the next "big push to T5" (mentioned every 2 minutes BY LAW in Militia chat, I swear to god), or sitting in Hek/Rens/Bosboger AFK, so the people actually undocked are looking for a fight. Waah.
- you can blob like all get-out and claim "its the only way we can win". Waah.
- Eve-O forums are your great elephant burial ground for all your failings in life.

Waah.


4) This is really how funny. Mintards use to make fun of us every time we mentioned their usual "run and come back with 2x" strategy. They called it "we adapted". They said "lol try to find friends you noob". I remember trying to get 20 people for shooting Halmah, I was like Bear we gonna do it. And then 55 of you came, you can blob like all get-out and claim "its the only way we can win". Waah.
"

Numbers don't lie. Any given time there are at least 1.5x more, sometimes 3x, 4x more Minmatar militia online than Amarr. There were at least 20 threads circlejerking over it. My 100% obvious spy alts, with the bio of "SPAI" are getting fleet and corp invites.

1) Your lies about LP is another hilarious part of your post, Mr. "SOLO BATTLESHIPS IN MAJORS". Whatever LITTLE you can make with plexing as 1 PILOT, is NOTHING compared to what you can make running missions. Minmatar can run them in practically their own space. As a missioner hunter if you are in Amarr, if you lose, you have to travel all the way back to friendly place, YOU WILL NOT MAKE IT BACK IN TIME.

2) You cannot change the facts, that minmatar faction cruiser is op. A Stabber Fleet Issue with a BATTLESHIP SIZED armor plate moves faster than a NAVY CARACAL with a nanofiber internal structure and a shield tank.

3) The farmer alts you talk about in Amarr/Minmatar space are in pods and they are alpha clones. Good luck calling it a "fight". They want people to gank them so they dont need to self destruct.

5) Eve forums are the only place you fight really. You cant delete post and send 2x more posters. Lol
Horak Thor
Angry Mustellid
#276 - 2012-08-31 11:21:22 UTC
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:

5) Eve forums are the only place you fight really. You cant delete post and send 2x more posters. Lol


Forum warrior that doesnt realize they are a forum warrior. amazing

.....

Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#277 - 2012-08-31 12:57:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuehnelt
Trinkets friend wrote:
Farmville in lowsec it may be, but there's a lot to be said for being on the Amarr militia side right now.

- you can undock, fly one or two jumps, hit d-scan and make buttloads of LP's with a capstable orbiting toon. Then complain you can't do massive "tier 5 push" like Minmatar which is to say, you can make much more, easier, just convert it to ISK at a lower ratio. Waah.
- you can cry like a baby about how the minmatar are OP/heartless joykillers/winning/fags/losers/better than you. Waah.
- you can undock and fly anywhere and find a person to blow up, confident 70% of minmatar are farmer alts scraping LP together for the next "big push to T5" (mentioned every 2 minutes BY LAW in Militia chat, I swear to god), or sitting in Hek/Rens/Bosboger AFK, so the people actually undocked are looking for a fight. Waah.
- you can blob like all get-out and claim "its the only way we can win". Waah.
- Eve-O forums are your great elephant burial ground for all your failings in life.

Waah.


Bitter stealth whining about your Minmatar experience. Stealth waaah combined with sneering at the waaahing of others. Stealth whining taking the forum of hilariously untrue praise for the Amarr experience.

Roll an Amarr alt, dude. Make some buttloads of LP. Convert it to ISK at 'a lower' ratio. Then, probably, instantly forget about these comments of yours and come right back with "what Amarr need to do is stop whining about not being able to make a tier 5 push and go make one!"

Well, actually, nobody's whining about that (apart from complaints with Nulli's impatience, which is old news), and actually, we're doing it right now. For the second time, use your militia window. It tells you everything.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#278 - 2012-08-31 13:30:14 UTC
Than you to whomever necro'd this thread. Straight
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#279 - 2012-08-31 13:39:32 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Whole FW is easier when you realize that FW is more than fight in one system.

Amarr has always had same problem, they try to fight for one or two systems at same time.

If you attack whole area at same time, no one is going to blob all of you, some of you may get raped but others can do their job freely.

Because up until recently, Amarr had to use gangs to plex anything other than minor's.

We harbingers of justice, light and goodwill towards man were not thrust into the war with a silver spoon in our mouths like the three other sides were .. we've had to actually work for our gains.
Of course now its just a Farm War so it makes little if any difference, but I fully expect the divide'n'conquor paradigm to be used when/if things change and Amarr get to keep the ability to plex on even terms with all the Slaves-in-Waiting.


I've been capturing plexes also for amarr in the past, i do not see those any harder than any other faction, those have their own tricks but as whole nothing really differs.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#280 - 2012-08-31 13:47:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
Im sure everyone is starting to see the writing thats been on the wall for 6 months, finally.

Lets sum this all up shall we.

CCP make it ALL about the isk and systems

CCP make it easy for a 1 day alt to not only make A HUGE AMOUNT of isk but also slap years old fw pvpers in the face with lockouts doing pve

CCP also add a nice bonus to winners who can farm missions once they have done all the plexes/systems.

Players start joining "winning side" set out by the one with most systems before inferno patch hit

Players start leaving losing side for no isk and poorer pvp

Players start leaving winning side for lack of good pvp

EVE realises that one day alt isk printing leading to main assisted lvl 4 farming makes insane money for little effort against few pvpers/pirates

FW dies and shrivels into isk alts and die hard pvpers that either dont need the isk, or are farming the other side themselves.

Nice job ccp.

really well ******* done.

The bit that really hurts is EVERYONE told you this was going to happen 2-3 months BEFORE the patch. Thats bad stuff ccp, as a 9 year old addict im very disappointed. When i come to the ten year fanfest devs can buy ME a beer :P

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