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Salvaging skill affect MNR drops?
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Megalorn
Regulus Industries
#1 - 2012-08-23 19:54:30 UTC

Hi I have been WH daytripping and am wondering if the Salvaging skill affects the drops you get from Salvaging (other than not being able to salvage many BS wrecks without Salvaging 5)? I have killed a number of Sleepers but gotten no MNRs. Sad
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-08-23 19:56:17 UTC
Megalorn wrote:

Hi I have been WH daytripping and am wondering if the Salvaging skill affects the drops you get from Salvaging (other than not being able to salvage many BS wrecks without Salvaging 5)? I have killed a number of Sleepers but gotten no MNRs. Sad



No,

Random is random.

2 days ago I ran 2 sites. Got 4 ribbons

This morning I ran 2 sites. Got 19 ribbons.

Salvager has salvaging 5 and T2 salvagers
Megalorn
Regulus Industries
#3 - 2012-08-23 20:30:38 UTC

Fair enough. What does affect MNR drop chance, then? I see some wrecks are "basic" or "intermediate" so I am wondering if more advanced wrecks have a better chance? Maybe larger wrecks as well?

Also wondering if there is a listing somewhere of what Sleeper rats drop what loot?
Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-23 21:17:44 UTC
Its random

No, Its random

Hope that helps

I ♥ the orthrus
Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#5 - 2012-08-23 21:46:23 UTC
What DOES effect the MNR drop rate is the value of the ship being used to tractor/salvage the wrecks. For this reason, you should ALWAYS be using an officer fit Rorqual.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#6 - 2012-08-23 22:00:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalel Nimrott
Confirming the above. Whs its all about risk/reward.
Best reward case scenario. Faction tower with faction mod in system increase chances by 25%. Faction fitted tengus and the above mentioned rorq will increase it by 15%(depending on the numbers of tengus it increases, basw is 2 always). Not round numbers, of course. But you get the idea.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Indo Nira
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-23 22:05:04 UTC
Tisisan wrote:
What DOES effect the MNR drop rate is the value of the ship being used to tractor/salvage the wrecks. For this reason, you should ALWAYS be using an officer fit Rorqual.


daytripping with a rorqual... uhm.. sure.. fairly sure he ain't doin this in c5 wormholes that have a LS entrance... now if you want to salvage with an officer fit marauder.. that's yeah... ok
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#8 - 2012-08-23 22:23:02 UTC
A few friends and I got to wondering if the success rate might also increase the drop rate of salvage, but none of us have taken the time to document our salvage rates on anything near a large enough sampling to get meaningful data. The question was based on several conversations regarding the switch to T2 salvagers and an apparent increase in drop rates of MNRs.

To be honest, I don't think anyone has done the science to say with any authority that it has no impact, but the explorer's mantra of "random is random" certainly applies. You'd have to compare the results of thousands of identical wrecks with tightly-controlled salvage abilities to determine what, if any, difference there was.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-23 22:34:44 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
A few friends and I got to wondering if the success rate might also increase the drop rate of salvage, but none of us have taken the time to document our salvage rates on anything near a large enough sampling to get meaningful data. The question was based on several conversations regarding the switch to T2 salvagers and an apparent increase in drop rates of MNRs.

To be honest, I don't think anyone has done the science to say with any authority that it has no impact, but the explorer's mantra of "random is random" certainly applies. You'd have to compare the results of thousands of identical wrecks with tightly-controlled salvage abilities to determine what, if any, difference there was.


I'm pretty sure CCP has made it clear that salvaging skill only effects chance of salvage success, not the salvage results.

What I have seemed to find is that while the size of wreck doesn't completely determine the number of MNR, it seems to follow a bit.

IE, when I get MNR from a battleship sized wreck I tend to get 4-6. When I get MNR from a frigate it is generally just one.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-24 01:07:18 UTC
We've got guys with varying skill in salvaging, we almost always meet the average "range" for any site that we salvage. It's completely random :)

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Megalorn
Regulus Industries
#11 - 2012-08-24 01:27:59 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
A few friends and I got to wondering if the success rate might also increase the drop rate of salvage, but none of us have taken the time to document our salvage rates on anything near a large enough sampling to get meaningful data. The question was based on several conversations regarding the switch to T2 salvagers and an apparent increase in drop rates of MNRs.

To be honest, I don't think anyone has done the science to say with any authority that it has no impact, but the explorer's mantra of "random is random" certainly applies. You'd have to compare the results of thousands of identical wrecks with tightly-controlled salvage abilities to determine what, if any, difference there was.


Thanks, I am just beginning to learn the ways of Bob.
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-08-24 01:32:26 UTC
Ohh look it's another MNR thread. Roll
AlexOrl
Manten en Kalle
#13 - 2012-08-24 04:56:48 UTC
Megalorn wrote:

Fair enough. What does affect MNR drop chance, then? I see some wrecks are "basic" or "intermediate" so I am wondering if more advanced wrecks have a better chance? Maybe larger wrecks as well?

Also wondering if there is a listing somewhere of what Sleeper rats drop what loot?


I was under the impression that battleship wrecks gave more nanoribbons then the frigate ones.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#14 - 2012-08-24 06:32:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
http://i.imgur.com/WNOSn.png
THE SALVAGE THAT A WRECK GIVES IS DETERMINED BY THE SERVER WHEN A SHIP IS DESTROYED
NOT when you try to salvage it

CCP Says no it doesn't

/thread

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Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#15 - 2012-08-24 06:40:31 UTC
AlexOrl wrote:
Megalorn wrote:

Fair enough. What does affect MNR drop chance, then? I see some wrecks are "basic" or "intermediate" so I am wondering if more advanced wrecks have a better chance? Maybe larger wrecks as well?

Also wondering if there is a listing somewhere of what Sleeper rats drop what loot?


I was under the impression that battleship wrecks gave more nanoribbons then the frigate ones.


this is correct, battleships are more likely to drop more nano-ribbons then cruisers ect.. ect...

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