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Make "cloak device" cycle of up to 10-30 minutes, without possibility autorepeat
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R0cky Marciano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-24 04:42:38 UTC  |  Edited by: R0cky Marciano
I propose to make a "cloaking device" cycle work, no repeat, up to 10-30 minutes.

Living players(cloak users), it does not affect, and bots will not save (scaning they can not) Smile

This will remove the posibility \ chars leave in the wrong system, and go to sleep \ to work, the so-called "bulb".
Want to bulb and prevent others, sit in front of computer itself, spend your time living Evil

p.s. and the need to create a rule, if you are hanging in cloak 23.5h \ 7, then it can not be a real person, that is, bot = BANAttention
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-08-24 04:58:56 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
[u] Living [/ u] players, it does not affect

Wrong.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
MushroomMushroom
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-24 05:07:45 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
I propose to make a "cloaking device" cycle work, no repeat, up to 10-30 minutes.

Living players, it does not affect, and bots will not save (naskanit they can not) Smile

This will remove the posibility \ chars leave in the wrong system, and go to sleep \ to work, the so-called "bulb".
Want to bulb and prevent others, sit in front of computer itself, spend your time living Evil


As soon as we remove your magical 100% accurate cloaked ship detector (local), then we can talk.
R0cky Marciano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-24 05:19:35 UTC
MushroomMushroom wrote:


As soon as we remove your magical 100% accurate cloaked ship detector (local), then we can talk.


go away to WH(wormhole), there is no "local" Smile
MushroomMushroom
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-08-24 05:26:34 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
MushroomMushroom wrote:


As soon as we remove your magical 100% accurate cloaked ship detector (local), then we can talk.


go away to WH(wormhole), there is no "local" Smile


Same to you, no need to worry about Afk Cloakers in a wormhole, as you wont know they are there.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-08-24 05:30:32 UTC
make local delayed ( truely delayed)
R0cky Marciano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-24 05:32:03 UTC  |  Edited by: R0cky Marciano
troll\flooder, not going to argue with you,

this topic for DEV, no for you

p.s. Living players(users cloak), it does not affect
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-08-24 05:53:29 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
MushroomMushroom wrote:


As soon as we remove your magical 100% accurate cloaked ship detector (local), then we can talk.


go away to WH(wormhole), there is no "local" Smile


Heed your own advice.

No local, no AFK cloakers.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-08-24 06:05:03 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
troll\flooder, not going to argue with you,

this topic for DEV, no for you

p.s. Living players(users cloak), it does not affect

Yes, it does. You don't know what you're talking about.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-24 06:23:40 UTC
Bad news kid, devs aren't gona respond.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#11 - 2012-08-24 07:25:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
cloak is fine
Mag's
Azn Empire
#12 - 2012-08-24 07:28:06 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
I propose to make a "cloaking device" cycle work, no repeat, up to 10-30 minutes.

Living players(cloak users), it does not affect, and bots will not save (naskanit they can not) Smile

This will remove the posibility \ chars leave in the wrong system, and go to sleep \ to work, the so-called "bulb".
Want to bulb and prevent others, sit in front of computer itself, spend your time living Evil

p.s. and the need to create a rule, if you are hanging in cloak 23.5h \ 7, then it can not be a real person, that is, bot = BANAttention
It affects active players a great deal and it's rather disingenuous to say otherwise.

Please answer the following question.
When someone is AFK, what game mechanic are they using to interact with you?

When you have the answer, you'll know the issue.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-24 08:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tub Chil
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Marsan
#14 - 2012-08-24 08:07:05 UTC
I love the constant AFK cloaker "problem" discussions. They basically come down to NS carebears wanting to be safer mining and ratting in NS than HS. Oh no there is non blue in local I have to stay docked up. Try wormholes where if you want to mine or rat you take your chances and watch dscan obsessively Not to mention is that a speedy bomber or covert ops frigate can warp to a safe spot, decloak and get up to a speed that they can't caught. So even if the cloak nerf happened there would be new method to annoy you.


PS- My one point of sympathy is that in NS is the amount of hot-dropping that goes on, which leads to one cloaker becoming a fleet of cap ships. It's one of the main things that keeps me out of NS.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-24 08:10:32 UTC
Marsan wrote:
PS- My one point of sympathy is that in NS is the amount of hot-dropping that goes on, which leads to one cloaker becoming a fleet of cap ships. It's one of the main things that keeps me out of NS.

This happens less often than you think. In any case, none of these are done by AFK cloakers.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#16 - 2012-08-24 10:41:34 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
I propose to make a "cloaking device" cycle work, no repeat, up to 10-30 minutes.

Living players(cloak users), it does not affect, and bots will not save (naskanit they can not) Smile



So there will be gapse every 10-30mins when the cloak isnt working??? between the time the cloak shuts off and the time a player reactivates it....

Well done, you have broken wormholes.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#17 - 2012-08-24 12:09:54 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
I propose to make a "cloaking device" cycle work, no repeat, up to 10-30 minutes.

Living players(cloak users), it does not affect, and bots will not save (scaning they can not) Smile

This will remove the posibility \ chars leave in the wrong system, and go to sleep \ to work, the so-called "bulb".
Want to bulb and prevent others, sit in front of computer itself, spend your time living Evil

p.s. and the need to create a rule, if you are hanging in cloak 23.5h \ 7, then it can not be a real person, that is, bot = BANAttention



Where to start with this total pile of tripe.

This will ONLY affect living players, it won't affect bots one bit. If you actually understood the macroing methods you'd know that five minutes after this was implimented every bot macro out there would be updated to watch for the cloak turning off and the macro would just turn it back on.

This ONLY penalises real players. Those that had to go for a dump or answer the door or telephone. Those (like me) who had to stop because they got a phone call from work and had to fix something for 10 minutes.

You're trying to "fix" a problem that only exists in your head by butchering game mechanics that have far reaching effects.

You clearly don't care that your proposed change would ruin wormholes and mean local becomes even more of a powerful tool than it is at the moment just because you and your corp have no man-balls.

How's about this, I'll get behind your proposal at the point that you agree that every 10-30 minutes your account should be logged back in without you knowing it and automatically undock if you are docked AND if you're logged in but in a station you get undocked automatically every 10-30 minutes.

This is the effect you're demanding of cloaks.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#18 - 2012-08-24 14:38:55 UTC
This is clearly a troll who tries to exchange Null Sec for Null Risk.

Attempting to dictate terms to pilots who have different play styles is a cry for help.
Here is your answer then: you are in over your head, and if you cannot adapt to the harsh realities of null sec, then you need to get out of the deep water.

Seriously equating wormholes as identical to regular space with the exception that there is no local, simply points out your lack of experience in them. The differences are far more reaching, as any pilot who spent significant time in one knows.

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
R0cky Marciano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-08-25 11:22:30 UTC
up for DEV
Mag's
Azn Empire
#20 - 2012-08-25 11:26:36 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
up for DEV
You didn't answer my question.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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