Science & Industry

You can both although you'll miss the speedy completion reward. First you do the mission but don't complete. Then you suck the roids dry. Then you complete.

The benefit of mission mining is that you're much more likely to be undisturbed, so that you can jetcan mine. It's not about more ISK/hour than belt mining. Also note that in many combat mission sites with asteroids, the asteroids are quite far from the warp-in point, making jetcan-mining the best option (unless it's become easier to fit AB or MWD to a Barge or Exhumer now - I tries to fit an AB to my Hulk a year or two ago, but it was basically not possible).

How massive is the yield bonus actually? A max skillz Hulk relative to a max skillz Mackinaw?

My impression is it's something like 15% or so. That is significant, but it's not massive.

Well, from the responses here that were constructive, thx to the forum moderators for removing the trolls, it looks lke using that second toon to just run more combat mish is far more profitable than holding a combat mission open and trying to mine it with two toons.

I imagine if you were in a corp that could do mining fleet ops then this would be an ideal way of doing it in high-sec. A large source of unmined roids refreshed at downtime every day that require griefers to probe you out. Nice.

Back to pew pew zap zap pew lootz!

Yes that has always been the case.

L4 Mining Missions - Purpose for doing (the rest are just until you get to L4 Missions Agent Access then forget they exist).

1x Ore Miner Setup, 1x Ice Miner Setup - swaps for your Hulk or Mack as you desire - used to use a hulk, find the mack is better as I semi AFK my missions and also saves me doing a "can" and orca pick-up, which actually it's faster and more secure to just make 2 trips on the missions that have really large loads. most you can don in one.

1x gas harvester ship - I use a HAC - doubles with a swap to be my local smack-down ship for idiots trying to screw with my activities.

Missions are not for ISK, directly - the ISK sucks, - 1-2M or so per... ick. LPs however are golden - 5000 with the skills - you turn these in for +5 or 5% implants (while keeping some for your personal use as always) and sell them - nets you a VERY good margin per.

Standings = refining = more ISK for your rocks you crunch up.

Finally - you should do mining missions for Carthum - 8.0 standings gives you access to the 40 Jump Clone station they have, and also nice R&D agents at L4... very handy...

all this and you can do it for a corporation rather than faction so your factional standings don't hit you (unless you do the storylines - which I skip) and you can run around the forcorners of EVE with good neutral standings to the local navies... handy.

Hope that helps, lately though I have found belt mining to be better ISK then implant farming, but I still do both - breaks up the day... very good ISKies.

Yes, but by the time my two toons mine even half that "significant" ore I could have ran at least three more L4s netting 10 to 25 mil each with salvage and bounties-and that is just with my main. With two of us we only netted 21mil in just over 2 hours of mining. I had saw on the forums someone saying it was a great source of more isk from your mish grind so I tried it but seems to me the only way to really make it better than just running more mish is to have a whole fleet of miners in there.

So you answered your own question, so I have to ask: Why the hell did you post this thread in the first place? If all you're interested in is making the almighty isk then by all means, run missions. Don't mine. Don't mine in belts, don't mine in missions, don't mine in Grav sites. WTF was the point of this thread?

Mining the roids in mission rooms can be very rewarding. But you need the right rooms. I run a lot of Level 4 missions and when I see a room with a large amount of easily accessible ore I stop mission and mine it.

Not all rooms with roids are worth mining. But some are well worth stoping to mine out. I often find rooms with huge roids even just veldspar when the rocks are big enough they take 5-10 cycles to pop. Compare this to the 1-3 cycles from most roids in high sec belts.

The best rooms to mine are the ones with large roids that are close together. They are some what rare but well worth it when you come across them. I also mine with a Orca and 3 hulks so the isk/hr is much higher than mining with a single combat toon and alt with poor skills. A good mission room will give you far more isk/hr than mining in high sec belts with the same team. Whether that isk./hr is better than lvl 4 missions depends on how good your mining team is, and how good you are at running missions. personally I do both just for the variety. income is about the same when multiboxing 4 accounts. I generally complete lvl 4 missions in 10-15 minutes including completely salvaging them. And that is the big lvl 4 missions not the ones that can be blitzed in 5 minutes or less.