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El Cid Campeador
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-23 18:55:37 UTC
We all love eve correct? So much so we want many of our friends to play it. What if they did? What if EVE's subs numbers went up to a million? Meaning at any given time there is likely to be 60-120k players on at any time.

What would happen? Would CCP have to change some mechanics of the game to help facilitate all the players? Is EVE currently designed to be able to have a million players? 2 million? etc...

At what point would the "galaxy" not be big enough? I understand you can just make it bigger, but id hope in some eventful ways.

What im really asking is what changes if any would need to come to EVE in order to be able to handle one million + players?
Whadafool
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-08-23 18:58:27 UTC
El Cid Campeador wrote:
We all love eve correct? So much so we want many of our friends to play it. What if they did? What if EVE's subs numbers went up to a million? Meaning at any given time there is likely to be 60-120k players on at any time.

What would happen? Would CCP have to change some mechanics of the game to help facilitate all the players? Is EVE currently designed to be able to have a million players? 2 million? etc...



Well most of them would be killed and then quit...eve doesn't cater to the average MMO fan

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#3 - 2012-08-23 18:59:07 UTC
More servers.

Next.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#4 - 2012-08-23 19:04:06 UTC
El Cid Campeador wrote:
We all love eve correct? So much so we want many of our friends to play it. What if they did? What if EVE's subs numbers went up to a million? Meaning at any given time there is likely to be 60-120k players on at any time.

What would happen? Would CCP have to change some mechanics of the game to help facilitate all the players? Is EVE currently designed to be able to have a million players? 2 million? etc...

At what point would the "galaxy" not be big enough? I understand you can just make it bigger, but id hope in some eventful ways.

What im really asking is what changes if any would need to come to EVE in order to be able to handle one million + players?


So roughly double what it is now eh?

All those empty low and null-sec systems would have twice as many players in them.

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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#5 - 2012-08-23 19:05:22 UTC
More servers. Probably more asteroids, too.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-08-23 19:05:50 UTC
and a bigger building to house them.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-08-23 19:10:41 UTC
Yeah, like we have a million friends between us P

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-08-23 19:13:21 UTC
El Cid Campeador wrote:
We all love eve correct? So much so we want many of our friends to play it. What if they did? What if EVE's subs numbers went up to a million? Meaning at any given time there is likely to be 60-120k players on at any time.

What would happen? Would CCP have to change some mechanics of the game to help facilitate all the players? Is EVE currently designed to be able to have a million players? 2 million? etc...

At what point would the "galaxy" not be big enough? I understand you can just make it bigger, but id hope in some eventful ways.

What im really asking is what changes if any would need to come to EVE in order to be able to handle one million + players?



Without changing a thing, EVE could easily accomodate 100k players online tomorrow.

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vyshnegradsky
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#9 - 2012-08-23 19:14:29 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
El Cid Campeador wrote:
We all love eve correct? So much so we want many of our friends to play it. What if they did? What if EVE's subs numbers went up to a million? Meaning at any given time there is likely to be 60-120k players on at any time.

What would happen? Would CCP have to change some mechanics of the game to help facilitate all the players? Is EVE currently designed to be able to have a million players? 2 million? etc...

At what point would the "galaxy" not be big enough? I understand you can just make it bigger, but id hope in some eventful ways.

What im really asking is what changes if any would need to come to EVE in order to be able to handle one million + players?


So roughly double what it is now eh?

All those empty low and null-sec systems would have twice as many players in them.



Double zero is still zero

This one's a bit over the edge guys.

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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#10 - 2012-08-23 19:21:42 UTC
Quantity != Quality.

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Rory Orlenard
Eve Pilots Revolutionary Army
#11 - 2012-08-23 19:24:29 UTC
Nice speculation but imo it is a pointless exercise.

There is a certain number of mmo players and from that group eve draws its subscribers. With the learning curve and time requirement to do anything meaningful in eve this game will probably never break 100k online. Maintaining 40k seems like a high goal to me.
My corp have the same problem as CCP, we have members who are thrilled by eves gameplay but just can't make the commitment because of real life issues.

Its similar to the law of thermodynamics - it will balance itself at a stable subscriber number.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#12 - 2012-08-23 19:40:34 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Yeah, like we have a million friends between us P


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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#13 - 2012-08-23 19:46:49 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Yeah, like we have a million friends between us P


I had a friend once, than he/she learned about my addiction.



My facebook says that I have over 3000 friends so I can cover for like 375 of you.

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#14 - 2012-08-23 21:26:16 UTC
well I don't think that CCP would make another server like another "shard" for example. They would just add more servers to handle the increased traffic on Tranquility most likely. As someone else mentioned, we are no where near capacity. It would take a lot of players for that to happen. If they did add to the galaxy, I think it would be sweet if they added more 0.0 that is similar to wormholes but not actually wormholes. Meaning: no sleepers, no sleeper sites. No stations etc. Make it like an "undiscovered country" maybe introduce more lore to support it. The s

now if CCP would make an awesome live action movie about EVE and do some real television advertising on appropriate channels, I think that they could bring in more revenue than what they expect to achieve with DUST. Just my opinion.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-08-23 21:26:45 UTC
James 315 wrote:
More servers. Probably more asteroids, too.

Why more asteroids, EvE is really cut throat, doubling or tripling the number of players would only make people fight over asteroids, more mining barges destroyed, more war over high sec moons, more destruction. At that point people who wanted "safe" minerals would salvage missions and reprocess modules.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#16 - 2012-08-23 21:46:02 UTC
Malcanis wrote:



Without changing a thing, EVE could easily accomodate 100k players online tomorrow.


Server wise yes, mechanic wise I think there would be some issues.

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#17 - 2012-08-24 00:44:27 UTC
Biggest problem technically would be if you doubled the number of players, and you assume that all else is equal in terms of proportions of null/low/high sec players would be a "normal" alliance battle of 500 people becomes a "normal" of 1000 people, and a "big" battle of 2000 people becomes 4000 people etc.

Assuming the servers don't die I'd love to see 100K people online. More competition in such a free market economy is always a good thing, it would drive innovation and it would make the individual feel a lot smaller then they do now, part of a much bigger universe.

Big nullsec alliances would start having problems though, organising them takes teams of dedicated space nerds right now, if they doubled in size god knows what would happen.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#18 - 2012-08-24 01:25:30 UTC
El Cid Campeador wrote:
We all love eve correct? So much so we want many of our friends to play it. What if they did? What if EVE's subs numbers went up to a million? Meaning at any given time there is likely to be 60-120k players on at any time.



Will never happen. 120k people online means an average of 19 people per system. CCP insists on a shardless game. So when we're all crammed together like sardines, the subs will automatically drop. The older players simply have too much power, being years ahead of the new players in terms of skill and organization. This results in frustrating gameplay for many. But hey, CCP thinks it's a lack of tee-shirts or shiny ships that's the problem. Fair 'nuff.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-08-24 02:56:13 UTC
Someone's mad Lol

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-08-24 06:14:13 UTC
the might add new systems, I personally think they will add new wormholes.
but 100k online at a time? to be able to do that they would probably just need to upgrade the trade hub nodes.
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